Markwise Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Hi can anyone please identify this starter and solenoid for me? Brand, type and partnumber if possible? They are attached to a Bedford 200-220 CU Diesel engine... and maybe tell me where i can find replacements? Cheers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 fv102 Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Looks vaguely like a Lucas M45G, need to remove the starter and wire brush both the starter and solenoid, the numbers/descriptor should be on the casing. D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Richard Farrant Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 (edited) In the 1967 Lucas CAV catalogue, the starter fitted to a 220 cu in Bedford engine is also the same for the 330 ci diesel, it is a CAV CA45D12-51 part number 1320513. The solenoid is part no.6211-39. Your starter is a Lucas M45G type with external solenoid, these solenoids can pack in so that could be the problem. If you need to change the whole starter, then you have the option of the CAV or Lucas starter as I am sure the flange and pinion would be same dimensions. You can confirm the numbers on your starter and solenoid when you remove it as they should be stamped on them. 12 volt of course. Edited September 21, 2015 by Richard Farrant should have gone to Specsavers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Sean N Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 (edited) Richard, I'm working from memory but isn't the CA45 the 'barrel' type starter with the solenoid in line with the main body of the starter and the terminals at the mounting flange end? The starter pictured does look like an M45G and I've come across both types on 200 / 220 / 300 / 330 - in fact, I have a 220 Turbo with an M45G on at the workshop. Both Richard and fv102 speak wisdom, though, the numbers will be stamped on the body when you remove it. You should be able to buy a replacement solenoid fairly easily, and get the starter rebuilt if needs be (probably cheaper than buying new). If there's no-one local there are sources online. Edited September 21, 2015 by Sean N Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Richard Farrant Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Richard, I'm working from memory but isn't the CA45 the 'barrel' type starter with the solenoid in line with the main body of the starter and the terminals at the mounting flange end? The starter pictured does look like an M45G and I've come across both types on 200 / 220 / 300 / 330 - in fact, I have a 220 Turbo with an M45G on at the workshop. Both Richard and fv102 speak wisdom, though, the numbers will be stamped on the body when you remove it. You should be able to buy a replacement solenoid fairly easily, and get the starter rebuilt if needs be (probably cheaper than buying new). If there's no-one local there are sources online. Thanks Sean, you are correct, I was leafing through the 1967 Lucas catalogue and did not pay attention on the numbers, modified my post now, so there is an alternative starter if needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Markwise Posted September 21, 2015 Author Share Posted September 21, 2015 Thanks guys, you're a big help, much appreciated! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Markwise Posted September 25, 2015 Author Share Posted September 25, 2015 (edited) I removed the solenoid. It says lucas 19s and ik think i make out 76906A after that and 12v does that ring a bell with anyone? Edited September 25, 2015 by Markwise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 fv102 Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 I removed the solenoid. It says lucas 19s and ik think i make out 76906A after that and 12vdoes that ring a bell with anyone? Lucas M45G 12volt Solenoid easily found on Amazon and Ebay. D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Markwise Posted September 26, 2015 Author Share Posted September 26, 2015 Thnx! is this the right starter for me? http://histoparts.com/nl/webshop/trekker-onderdelen-per-merk/david-brown/electrisch-en-dashboard/product___10778-lucas-m45-startmotor.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Richard Farrant Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 Thnx!is this the right starter for me? http://histoparts.com/nl/webshop/trekker-onderdelen-per-merk/david-brown/electrisch-en-dashboard/product___10778-lucas-m45-startmotor.html Mark, I would be very wary of buying a starter just because it is advertised as a M45G. That is just the type, there are variations, especially in the drive end, pinion diameter, number of teeth, depth into bell housing, left side or right side mounting. You need to get the number off the main body of the starter to know. As it is a common Bedford diesel engine, 220 and 330 are the same it seems, they were fitted in 12 volt TJ and TK. It should not be hard to find one, otherwise get yours checked and overhauled, it might only be a faulty solenoid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Markwise Posted September 27, 2015 Author Share Posted September 27, 2015 Ah i see, thanks Richard! I am working on removing the starter ... I have 1.5 cm shortage of room, aaargh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Markwise Posted October 9, 2015 Author Share Posted October 9, 2015 Hello all, still havent gotten anywhere with mine, so if someone could please give me the correct number for the starter that would be great,many thanks! cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Hi can anyone please identify this starter and solenoid for me?
Brand, type and partnumber if possible?
They are attached to a Bedford 200-220 CU Diesel engine...
and maybe tell me where i can find replacements?
Cheers!
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