Minty42 Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Looking for various parts to complete restoration before joining everybody at the Normandy celebrations. Would love to hear from anybody that has used parts that need a new home. Also, cannot find original bonnet serial number via usual means, including stripping bonnet. Is there a reliablish register somewhere? Thanks for any help. Graham Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arcot1751 Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Welcome to the HMVF Graham, maybe a list of parts needed would help ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fesm_ndt Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 G'day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick W Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 I don't think you will have any luck with finding the bonnet number if its not there. Even the G503 forum can't help with that! I have some oddments, what are you looking for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minty42 Posted January 31, 2014 Author Share Posted January 31, 2014 Hi Rick, This week we are mostly looking for.....lots of bits. Just removing the tub but the French Army have had the beast so lots of external bits to put it back to standard Willys. Lamps, tyres, chassis bolts, handbrake assy etc. What do you have? Do you have a list? Thanks Graham I don't think you will have any luck with finding the bonnet number if its not there. Even the G503 forum can't help with that! I have some oddments, what are you looking for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Ashby Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Welcome to HMVF, I have a few small parts currently in the spares for sale section on here, let me know what you are looking for as I have some other parts that could do with a new home. Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul_bish Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 Welcome on board :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Johns Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 (edited) Also, cannot find original bonnet serial number via usual means, including stripping bonnet. Is there a reliablish register somewhere? Welcome to the fascinating world of Jeeps, If the Jeep is ex French Army it was very likely to have been rebuilt, sometimes more than once, the French military operated a large rebuild facility, look inside the channel section of the chassis passenger side above the rear axle see if a small plate the "Malt plate" is welded in at an angle, this is the French rebuild plate that will have its rebuild number and date code stamped on it this will confirm if it went through the French rebuild programme at the Moultournee' works. bodies and bonnets wings got reconditioned swapped around and replaced, so even if you were lucky to find an original number the bonnet may have previously come from another Jeep, has it been fitted with a post war Hotchkiss body and bonnet? There was no real correlation from when Jeeps came off the Willys & Ford assembly lines to when they were passed by Military inspectors as fit for service and thats when its bonnet serial numbers and date of delivery were applied, they were not done in sequence, you can really only guess the number from similar chassis number Jeeps that have a known original number. Do you have the original chassis number? ..spend hours trawling through G503.com Serial numbers section looking for other 1944 Willys close to your chassis number More info on French Jeeps and the rebuild programme.. http://www.m201.com/ITM/ITM.htm Edited February 1, 2014 by Nick Johns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minty42 Posted February 2, 2014 Author Share Posted February 2, 2014 Welcome to the HMVF Graham, maybe a list of parts needed would help ? Yup, tub coming off tomorrow, will then compile shopping list. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minty42 Posted February 2, 2014 Author Share Posted February 2, 2014 I don't think you will have any luck with finding the bonnet number if its not there. Even the G503 forum can't help with that! I have some oddments, what are you looking for? Hi Rick, All sorts really, will finalise list and get back to you. Thanks Graham Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minty42 Posted February 2, 2014 Author Share Posted February 2, 2014 Welcome to HMVF, I have a few small parts currently in the spares for sale section on here, let me know what you are looking for as I have some other parts that could do with a new home. Pete Will do Pete. Thanks Grahm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minty42 Posted February 2, 2014 Author Share Posted February 2, 2014 Welcome to the fascinating world of Jeeps,If the Jeep is ex French Army it was very likely to have been rebuilt, sometimes more than once, the French military operated a large rebuild facility, look inside the channel section of the chassis passenger side above the rear axle see if a small plate the "Malt plate" is welded in at an angle, this is the French rebuild plate that will have its rebuild number and date code stamped on it this will confirm if it went through the French rebuild programme at the Moultournee' works. bodies and bonnets wings got reconditioned swapped around and replaced, so even if you were lucky to find an original number the bonnet may have previously come from another Jeep, has it been fitted with a post war Hotchkiss body and bonnet? There was no real correlation from when Jeeps came off the Willys & Ford assembly lines to when they were passed by Military inspectors as fit for service and thats when its bonnet serial numbers and date of delivery were applied, they were not done in sequence, you can really only guess the number from similar chassis number Jeeps that have a known original number. Do you have the original chassis number? ..spend hours trawling through G503.com Serial numbers section looking for other 1944 Willys close to your chassis number More info on French Jeeps and the rebuild programme.. http://www.m201.com/ITM/ITM.htm Hello Nick, Thank you for your detailed reply. We are removing the tub tomorrow so will look out for the French rebuild plate on the chassis. We do have a couple of overhaul plates which were pop riveted on the bonnet from E. Romane, 1967 I think. I dont have a picture to hand I am afraid, but will get one. I assume it is a Hotchkiss body as the rear lights are not Willys and the rear panel does not have the cutouts to contain the originals. Bodywise it is a bit of a mongrel but the number is 164489. But it does have the small bulkhead cut out that I thought marked it as a Willys.The chassis number is 400463 and the engine number is GP242721, presumably a Ford lump. We also have a plate on the Gearbox reading: E.R.G.M. de Clermont-Ferrand No de Revision 7059 Date de Reception 26/10/81. So hopefully that will be ok! I have previously done the G503 website searching and reckon it was built 28th December 1944 and will take your advice about finding a serial number that fits the date approximately. What I would like is some way of finding out where and with who it served in the ETO. Ideas from anybody please. Thanks Graham Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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