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Saracen APC restoration


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Hi All , moving on from the Dodge WC51 to my next project , A Saracen APC, I need to put up outside photo's first

 

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The 1st part i need is

 

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Its a busted steering knuckle , suggestions on where i can best get Saracen spares, please

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Ah! Another member good taste in MV's, I have copies of all maintenance and users manuals (plus a few duplicates), so can offer some help and info. I have almost finished fitting new seals in my fluid flywheel!.... Long job!

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Now, believe it or not ,oil seal gone in the fluid fly wheel, advice on procedure please!

I am trying to strip back to the bare assembleys as we speak

 

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Got the Tank out to find an oil reserve......

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But there was €150 worth of fuel in it, will power a landie to Beltring....

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Now for Photo's of the broken parts discovered today

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Passenger side of steering

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Support on Drivers side

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and , as posted before, one of these.

 

Can anyone tell me..

to do the Fluid fly wheel

 

1/ Remove transmission, then gearbox

or

2/ Remove Engine, separate gearbox and remove

 

again thanks for all help on this one

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Can anyone tell me..

to do the Fluid fly wheel

 

1/ Remove transmission, then gearbox

or

2/ Remove Engine, separate gearbox and remove

 

again thanks for all help on this one

 

Hi,

 

You will find it very hard to remove the gearbox from the engine from the back. The cross shaft that transferes the gearchange peddle operation from the lefthand side to the right hand side gose between the bell housing and the gearbox. So you only have an inch or so of movment. The splins that go into the flywheel are arround two inch long.

Much better to remove the engine. Although this looks a daunting task, its quite quick. Sadly, I have done this several times with my Saracen.

It will make changing the steering hydrolic cylinder a lot easyer as well.

 

Andy

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Now for Photo's of the broken parts discovered today

012.jpg

Passenger side of steering

013.jpg

Support on Drivers side

0113.jpg

and , as posted before, one of these.

 

Can anyone tell me..

to do the Fluid fly wheel

 

1/ Remove transmission, then gearbox

or

2/ Remove Engine, separate gearbox and remove

 

again thanks for all help on this one

 

You do have a lot of work! Do you have the vehicle registration number for your Saracen?

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Do you mean the reg no.?

it's in the 2nd photo......

 

No, the number on your vehicle is probably the civilian registration number, the army vehicle registration number normally has two figures, then BA and an additional two figures as in the case below. On this plate it is referred to as the hull number.

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On this reply it was clarified somewhat: "96BA67 is the UK MoD registration number. I suggest you get in touch with the Tank Museum Library (http://www.tankmuseum.org/) and get hold of the history card. This will show when it was sold off, and who to."

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This plate is normally found under the side escape panel on the lefthand side of the vehicle, I hope yours is still there.

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There should also be aditional numbers which was utilised at the Alvis factory, this number could be found stamped on a variety of components and on a plate just above the rear doors, in this particular case the vehicle is Alv 721.

There is also a thread somewhere on the British Vehicles forum about these elusive vehicle numbers. I will have a look for it. On the escape door latches, it would for example be, NS721 (Near side) or OS721 (Off side). This would only be true if the doors have not been swopped around with those from other vehicles.

 

I am also busy on a Saracen register, hence my interest. Happy searching!

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Busy weekend, again

I was told the reg on her was an RAF number... someone has been telling me porkies....

Not for the first time...

 

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Its out, thanks in part, to advice given by forum members

 

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and a 434 hiab

 

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QUESTION; How many spanners can you hide under a Saracen Engine?

 

in this case ......... 4 ( all 1/2 inch and 7/16 )

 

and a screwdriver

 

and 2 gallons of Oil

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Busy weekend, again

I was told the reg on her was an RAF number... someone has been telling me porkies....

Not for the first time...

 

DSCN3639.jpg

 

Its out, thanks in part, to advice given by forum members

 

DSCN3641.jpg

 

and a 434 hiab

 

DSCN3642.jpg

 

QUESTION; How many spanners can you hide under a Saracen Engine?

 

in this case ......... 4 ( all 1/2 inch and 7/16 )

 

and a screwdriver

 

and 2 gallons of Oil

 

You are making very good progress!

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Busy weekend, again

I was told the reg on her was an RAF number... someone has been telling me porkies....

 

 

No, it's an improperly displayed civilian registration mark, RFF 299. The online DVLA records show manufactured 1954, first registered 1994 although it only appears to have a 888cc engine!. I suggest you claim ownership and get it SORNed. :-)

 

Andy

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Hi all

Urgent

 

Got the Engine in ok, Small problem,

 

!/from the front of the compressor head there is a heavy rubber flexible pipe, about 8 inches long. It's has a metal fitting on the end, female connector. It appears to run directly towards the front of the vehicle.

 

also i've a left over part

 

2/FV 121544, pipe assembley, tyre pump to filter .......Were do'es this go?

 

Do these parts connect?

 

HELP

 

sean

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Hi all Urgent Got the Engine in ok, Small problem, !/from the front of the compressor head there is a heavy rubber flexible pipe, about 8 inches long. It's has a metal fitting on the end, female connector. It appears to run directly towards the front of the vehicle. also i've a left over part 2/FV 121544, pipe assembley, tyre pump to filter .......Were do'es this go? Do these parts connect? HELP sean

 

Sean,

My memory of these vehicles is that the filter assy is up on the frame with the oil cooler, the metal pipe joins to the hose.

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Got the gearbox out

 

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In a very sad state

 

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Water had got in though missing studs in the top plate

 

Had to make that special tool, good job i have a welder.

 

Hi Big project. Never seen a gearbox and transfer box split in situ?

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