Rasputin Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 I finished the upgrades to my SLR, and was thinking of adding a rack number. Was there a standard method of applying these? example pictures would really be a big help. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferretfixer Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 I finished the upgrades to my SLR, and was thinking of adding a rack number. Was there a standard method of applying these? example pictures would really be a big help. Thanks! No standard method. the USUAL (& neat) method was by stencil. 1" High x 1/8th wide. Or Hand painted, the same size. (NOT as neat!)..........:shocked: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasputin Posted February 17, 2012 Author Share Posted February 17, 2012 Thanks. White paint then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferretfixer Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 Yep, but I have also seen yellow & also Red (Yuck!)............. White is what I would recomend, it was the 'Usual' encounterd colour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasputin Posted February 18, 2012 Author Share Posted February 18, 2012 Thanks. Right side of the stock for the numbers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcoycqms Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 with our battalion each company had its own colour to mark its weapons to make it easer to check them in the armoury. C company was yellow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferretfixer Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 Thanks. Right side of the stock for the numbers? Yes, approx 2" Up from the Buttplate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasputin Posted February 19, 2012 Author Share Posted February 19, 2012 Sorry for the dumb questions, but I'm almost finished with my upgrades to the SLR, and wanted to get as close to authentic as possible. Thanks for the info! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer nut Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 Mine has a No 5 painted onto the bottom of the pistol grip Ta Jon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferretfixer Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Armoury Butt Numbers, were NEVER an Official thing. They were done by Arms storemen to make life easier on a quick Weapons Check. Remember: Firearms are a VERY Accountable thing! Can you imagine a serial number check on a COMPLETE Rifle compains Smallarms Holdings? What a Nighmare! It would take Hours, to that end Serial number checks were done periodicaly. Today though, Serial Number checks are done once a week. This is because there HAVE been incidences. Of some 'Enterprising' Person. Signing out an SA80 Rifle over a weekend Training excercise. & Replacing it with a Replica Airsoft Weapon! They are VERY realisitic to look at! Even the N.A.T.O Stock number is moulded on the Handguards! Now, when a serial/But number check is done. EVERY SA80 Rifle & LSW L85A2 is actually LIFTED up a couple of inches from it's position in the storage wallrack. This is done with supervison of a SNCO (Usually a Sergeant) The weight of a replica is slightly less than the real thing! Could you imagine what sort of scenario might unfold if a weapon was removed from an Armoury for some sort of use in a week. & then replaced again back in the Armoury & the Replica removed?...........It REALLY does NOT want to Happen - DOES IT!........:shocked: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlienFTM Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 Thanks. Right side of the stock for the numbers? Location of the butt number was determined so that the arms storeman could see it quickly, so it depended on the angle he approached the rack from in the building he was in. It might frankly be anywhere. Almost always on the butt (hence "butt number") - okay for the pedants, on the stock - but as we have seen in this thread, not always. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robin craig Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 From memory, which as one advances plays tricks, that some unit armouries had a numbered brass disk attached to each firearm somehow. Seem to remember the jangling that went one until one signed for the said bang stick and then it was removed until return. Alien do you remember anything like that? R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlienFTM Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 No mate. But I now remember some unit or other issued a squaddy with a card which he signed and was then laminated, so that on Active Edge he simply swapped the card for the weapon, the Arms Store had his signature and it was dead easy to sign out and to carry out a weapons check: either the weapon was there or the card was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasputin Posted February 29, 2012 Author Share Posted February 29, 2012 Thanks again for the insight guys! As soon as the weather gets a little better, I'll post a few pics of the SLR with the modifications I made. Hythe sight Correct (for me) XL butt pad Rack numbers I'm still looking for the later model Hythe foresight though. I have one of the early models, and understand why the MOD changed them...:-D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robin craig Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 (edited) Alien, I think what you and I are both saying is that while butt numbers were common there were over the yers many different ways that storemen kept weapons in unit armouries. The big aim was accounatbility 100% and ease and speed of issuance and return of weapons. I guess to be blunt, they all tried to re design the mouse trap in a fashion. R Edited March 1, 2012 by robin craig change of wordage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferretfixer Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 Alien, I think what you and I are both saying is that while butt numbers were common there were over the yers many different ways that armourers kept weapons in unit armouries. The big aim was accounatbility 100% and ease and speed of issuance and return of weapons. I guess to be blunt, they all tried to re design the mouse trap in a fashion. R Pedantic correction Robin! They were kept in unit Armouries by ARMS STOREMEN! ARMOURER'S Fix them, STOREMEN store/keep them in Armouries!...... Sorry, but something i feel passionate about! You need to be qualified to be an Armourer. (hard won!) but you dont need any qualification to be an Arms Storeman............... :-D (That being said, I used to keep my own Personaly Held Pistol in unit Armouries all over the world!) Mike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robin craig Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 My apologies to you as an armourer. Original post duly changed. I meant no harm, honestly. R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony B Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 Pedantic correction Robin! They were kept in unit Armouries by ARMS STOREMEN! ARMOURER'S Fix them, STOREMEN store/keep them in Armouries!...... Sorry, but something i feel passionate about! You need to be qualified to be an Armourer. (hard won!) but you dont need any qualification to be an Arms Storeman............... :-D (That being said, I used to keep my own Personaly Held Pistol in unit Armouries all over the world!) Mike. Does that go with the 'Stores are for storing, not issuing'. :-D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferretfixer Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 My apologies to you as an armourer. Original post duly changed. I meant no harm, honestly. R Rob, I Belive you!........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferretfixer Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 Does that go with the 'Stores are for storing, not issuing'. :-D Tony, I would swear by the Power of greyskull. ALL storemen do a course on how to say a thousand different methods. On the fact that they cannot issue, or do not have a ceratin item of equipment you need. When you can see the Damm thing sitting on the shelf behind his counter!.....:mad: Honestly, It's enough to make you want to eat your Young!...........:undecided: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robin craig Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 Your forgeting the sound of air sucking through teeth and the shaking of the head before the words come out of the mouth for full effect of a storeman . . . . . Robin (not Rob, please) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcoycqms Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 As a Coy CQMS the first think you are told is that stors are for storing kit and not for issue :cool2: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferretfixer Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 Your forgeting the sound of air sucking through teeth and the shaking of the head before the words come out of the mouth for full effect of a storeman . . . . . Robin (not Rob, please) Robin, Time dull's the memory!..................:angel: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotch Harry Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 These were on my DEACT L1A1 when i bought it--- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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