iannima Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 (edited) This progressive section of the HMVF is not generating the activity it is supposed to under the five year plan I think we should each submit an auto-critical report :-D and strive to do better to emulate comrade Stakhanov :nut: As a first attempt on my part... I am going to dedicate a thread to my favourite tank: the T72 in NVA service. There are several versions of the T72 and I cannot distinguish them all and therefore will not attempt to. I understand that a crucial distinction is the slope of the frontal armour of the turret but this is often shrouded (quite appropriately) by a nestle of smoke dischargers, so an exact identification of the variant is beyond me. I am going to restrict myself to T72s in NVA service. Most of these I understand were of Czechoslovack production under license. I am going to group by context. Most of these photographs have been picked up on various internet fora, years ago or scanned from period photobooks on the NVA. Edited April 28, 2010 by iannima Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iannima Posted April 28, 2010 Author Share Posted April 28, 2010 The T72 had a dozer blade at the front to dig a trench for itself: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iannima Posted April 28, 2010 Author Share Posted April 28, 2010 (edited) On exercise in the field: Edited April 28, 2010 by iannima Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iannima Posted April 28, 2010 Author Share Posted April 28, 2010 (edited) at speed... Edited April 28, 2010 by iannima Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iannima Posted April 28, 2010 Author Share Posted April 28, 2010 in snowy fields Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iannima Posted April 28, 2010 Author Share Posted April 28, 2010 Unterwasserfahrt i.e. wading... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iannima Posted April 28, 2010 Author Share Posted April 28, 2010 (edited) miscellaneous pics Edited April 28, 2010 by iannima Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schliesser92 Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 This progressive section of the HMVF is not generating the activity it is supposed to under the five year plan I think we should each submit an auto-critical report :-D and strive to do better to emulate comrade Stakhanov :nut:As a first attempt on my part... I am going to dedicate a thread to my favourite tank: the T72 in NVA service. There are several versions of the T72 and I cannot distinguish them all and therefore will not attempt to. I understand that a crucial distinction is the slope of the frontal armour of the turret but this is often shrouded (quite appropriately) by a nestle of smoke dischargers, so an exact identification of the variant is beyond me. I am going to restrict myself to T72s in NVA service. Most of these I understand were of Czechoslovack production under license. I am going to theme by context. Most of these photographs have been picked up on various internet fora, years ago or scanned from period photobooks on the NVA. Comrade! You'll find that all vehicles delivered to the NVA, regardless from which fraternal socialist brothers, were first sent to a depot and "Germanised". Therefore one can only really tell by the standard of Germanification when they entered service, and with a little luck and expedient research, whence they originated. It was rumoured that the socialist brothers of the NVA had changed the T-72 so much, that they were not 100% compatible with those from their peace-loving socialist neighbours, and infinitely better than those used by GSFG. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iannima Posted April 28, 2010 Author Share Posted April 28, 2010 parade... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iannima Posted April 28, 2010 Author Share Posted April 28, 2010 (edited) Comrade! You'll find that all vehicles delivered to the NVA, regardless from which fraternal socialist brothers, were first sent to a depot and "Germanised". Therefore one can only really tell by the standard of Germanification when they entered service, and with a little luck and expedient research, whence they originated. It was rumoured that the socialist brothers of the NVA had changed the T-72 so much, that they were not 100% compatible with those from their peace-loving socialist neighbours, and infinitely better than those used by GSFG. Genosse, you appear to know a lot more than I do, and will therefore promptly bow to your superior knowledge I shall merely post the pics I have collected... after all, the five years plan assigns different tasks to each one of us... Edited April 28, 2010 by iannima Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iannima Posted April 28, 2010 Author Share Posted April 28, 2010 more parade... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iannima Posted April 28, 2010 Author Share Posted April 28, 2010 And this is -I think- is how they all ended... a sad end indeed as most of these were scrapped Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iannima Posted April 28, 2010 Author Share Posted April 28, 2010 These are -to the best of my knowledge- not East German, but it is difficult not to include such a vista on a T72 themed thread... Perhaps they were lined up for sale... :kiss:... and no, I don't think they are computer generated to look more numerous... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berna2vm Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 Yes,I had never considered the T72.... I am rather enamoured with it now :-)! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FW200 Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 Pictures of the ones in a line are the ones used in "Lord of War" According to Andrew Niccol, the filmmakers worked with actual gunrunners in the making of the film. The tanks lined up for sale were real and belonged to a Czech arms dealer who had to have them back to sell to another country. They used a real stockpile of over 3,000 AK-47s because it was cheaper than getting prop guns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iannima Posted April 28, 2010 Author Share Posted April 28, 2010 I am rather enamoured with it now :-)! Just don't blame me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schliesser92 Posted April 29, 2010 Share Posted April 29, 2010 Genosse, you appear to know a lot more than I do, and will therefore promptly bow to your superior knowledge I shall merely post the pics I have collected... after all, the five years plan assigns different tasks to each one of us... One of my work colleagues here in Germany was an NVA political officer - we call him (affectionally, of course) Stasi-Müller. Although a lot of vehicles were taken over, temporarily, into the Bundeswehr, the T-72 wasn't. The BMPs were partly modified and westernised, and when it was realised that it was too expensive and a complete waste of time - they were sold off. The scrapyards were full of Russian/Soviet armour Only the softskin stuff had a somewhat longer life before disappearing intp collectors' hands - with a lot of Roburs and W50s being donated to various African countries as part of Germany's aid program. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlienFTM Posted May 3, 2010 Share Posted May 3, 2010 in snowy fields Oh look, silver birch. When 15/19H received our first stolen pictures of T64 so that we could study the enemy and learn to recognise and identify correctly (see the other thread), they had been taken by an Intelligence Corps soldier who had penetrated a tank hide in a copse of silver birches. For years, on recognition tests, any picture came up of the T64, the shout from the front row was "T64!" and the retort from the back row was "Silver birch!" It was a standing joke. An awful lot of recce troops would have got these pics wrong at first glance. ;o) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichelK Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 Because it is an little quite on the forum :sleep: An picture of the T72M at the vehicle depot Kappellen of the Belgium Army museum Picture was taken during an opening day of the depot 2007-09-09 MichelK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer nut Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 Comrades, we of the capitalist reactionary oposition group (F80) are pleased that you have taken time to show us the machines that will cleanse the corupted west of the unclean war mongers as we will now be able to correctly identify what tank we destroy with our Charlie G. I shall of course in my role of double agent slow down the distribution of such valuable information to the NATO agents that now even plot your downfall. Take care comrades as those pig dog spies are amongst you Jon :cool2: Ps: Cool Pics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iannima Posted February 8, 2011 Author Share Posted February 8, 2011 I shall of course in my role of double agent slow down the distribution of such valuable information to the NATO agents that now even plot your downfall. Take care comrades as those pig dog spies are amongst you Jon :cool2: Ps: Cool Pics Genosse! we salute your arrival on this most progressive part of the forum ! Although you wear the uniform of the NATO aggressors, we know that in your heart of hearts you belong to the people! :laugh: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lesley Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 Comrade! You'll find that all vehicles delivered to the NVA, regardless from which fraternal socialist brothers, were first sent to a depot and "Germanised". Therefore one can only really tell by the standard of Germanification when they entered service, and with a little luck and expedient research, whence they originated. It was rumoured that the socialist brothers of the NVA had changed the T-72 so much, that they were not 100% compatible with those from their peace-loving socialist neighbours, and infinitely better than those used by GSFG. I'am afraid no NVA T-72 is compatible with tanks in the GSFG (or WGF as they were named later on) since there were no Soviet/Russian T-72 in the GSFG/WGF. In Czechoslovakia were indeed some Soviet/Russian T-72 with ERA bricks and probably in Poland also. But not in the GSFG/WGF. Maybe it is that English is not my native language but the origin of the vehicle is quit easy. Just look at the serialnumber and you know the production year, production month, in some cases the variant and the country of origin. Regards, Lesley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malyutkaman Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 Just quick question comrades. Since we're talking bout T72's it is my understanding that the Russians only built them for export and never fielded the tank themselves (I heard this on a show about Afganistan). Is this true or have I just been reading that Capitalist Western propaganda?:readpaper: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lesley Posted April 7, 2012 Share Posted April 7, 2012 (edited) They were also deployed in Soviet/Russian units, below a link with a picture of a Soviet T-72 in former Czechoslovakia. The type designation is wrong BTW. Regards Lesley http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/row/t-72-DAST8906585_JPG.jpg Edited April 8, 2012 by Lesley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FW200 Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 They did however never field them in Afghanistan, maybe that's where the confusion came from.. They mostly used T-62's in Afghanistan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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