Kevin Watkins Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 Hi Guys, I hope some of you bright lads can give me a good steer. DUring the Second World War, the US Army used a platform 20 ton drawbar transporter made by JAHN. It was given a reference number G610. This tank transporter may well have been towed by Diamond T, Federal or the like. The trailer had 8 tyres in a row across the back, and 4 tyres on the drawbar dolley. I have spent contless hours trying to find a site which shows a photo of this transporter, or detailed drawings or service manual. I keep drawing a blank. Several of these transporters arrived in NZ at the end of the War and were used by the NZ Army... now they are long gone. I have one, modified, and would love to see the original drawings, photos or species. If any one can help me I would be real pleased. Thanks. Kevin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichelK Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 Kevin I tried to get some answers about an Jahn trailer before However from your description I think the one you describe is an different type :confused: http://hmvf.co.uk/forumvb/showthread.php?17285-Need-some-information-with-trailer&p=191634#post191634 If this is the one you mean, I have some additional picture's of it MichelK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Watkins Posted April 1, 2010 Author Share Posted April 1, 2010 Thankyou for your interest and reply. Yes, this is quite a different transporter to our Jahn 20 tonner. The one shown here looks more like a 35 ton model. I have not seen this model before. Is the Jahn factory still operating?..... or was it taken over by some other Company. There must be info sitting on a shelf somewhere....one hopes. Our model has a very rounded gooseneck, probably about a 17 or 18 foot bed then the row of eight tyres. Lets keep fingers crossed and I will try and get a picture posted somehow. Cheers kevin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Watkins Posted April 1, 2010 Author Share Posted April 1, 2010 Kevin I tried to get some answers about an Jahn trailer before However from your description I think the one you describe is an different type :confused: http://hmvf.co.uk/forumvb/showthread.php?17285-Need-some-information-with-trailer&p=191634#post191634 If this is the one you mean, I have some additional picture's of it MichelK Michelk, what is interesting is a close up look at the production plate of that Jahn trailer. I have not been able to find a "Jahn trailer CO," but that plate indicates the trailer was made by Pressed staeel Co Inc in the USA which made machinery for the US during WWII...... I will check the plate on our trailer which is badly worn... cheers kevin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Posted April 1, 2010 Share Posted April 1, 2010 (edited) Have you seen this advert for one for sale in NZ? http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Trailers/Single-axle/auction-277347436.htm Is that your type? It has the gooseneck you've described. Edited April 1, 2010 by Johnny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichelK Posted April 1, 2010 Share Posted April 1, 2010 Michelk, what is interesting is a close up look at the production plate of that Jahn trailer. I have not been able to find a "Jahn trailer CO," but that plate indicates the trailer was made by Pressed staeel Co Inc in the USA which made machinery for the US during WWII...... I will check the plate on our trailer which is badly worn... cheers kevin Kevin, I have checked the original picture of the plates on this trailer and I qoute: Manufactured by Jahn trailer division Pressed steel car co. inc. So youre right it's made by an other company However the plates also say it's an 20ton trailer Maybe I have some picture's of the trailer you mean I may have it somewhere in the picture folder "trailer, not a clue what it is" :rotfl: When I find them I will post some of them, perhaps you can tell me if it is the correct one MichelK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Watkins Posted April 2, 2010 Author Share Posted April 2, 2010 Have you seen this advert for one for sale in NZ? http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Trailers/Single-axle/auction-277347436.htm Is that your type? It has the gooseneck you've described. Well Johnny.... Ill be damed..... yes, this is the exact same transporter we have and it looks real original. I will try and contact the owner to get more details. Thanks a million. The trailer for sale is in the South island of new Zealand, I live in the North, but no problems..... will keep you informed. Cheers and happy easter Kevin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antar Posted April 2, 2010 Share Posted April 2, 2010 Well Johnny.... Ill be damed..... yes, this is the exact same transporter we have and it looks real original. I will try and contact the owner to get more details. Thanks a million. The trailer for sale is in the South island of new Zealand, I live in the North, but no problems..... will keep you informed. Cheers and happy easter Kevin Hi Kevin are you related to the famous house movers Watkins ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichelK Posted April 2, 2010 Share Posted April 2, 2010 Hi folks, is it the same trailer as the one is in the picture's below :confused: If it is, I will know how to rename the picture's of it The only thing is that the rear of the trailer appears to be shorter then the one in the advert MichelK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antarmike Posted April 2, 2010 Share Posted April 2, 2010 (edited) There is a Jahn trailer in preservation with Steve Guest in Chedworth. He has taken it to GDSF, and Kemble. With M2 High speed tractor on it. Anyone got any photographs. I don't know its age but it had been with PSA for a while. See post #! here http://hmvf.co.uk/forumvb/showthread.php?14296-What-is-the-story-on-the-Beltring-Cletrac-project&highlight=cletrac Edited April 2, 2010 by antarmike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diamond 981 Posted April 2, 2010 Share Posted April 2, 2010 TM 9-2800(STANDARD MILITARY MOTOR VEHICLES) page 430,Trailer ,full,flatbed, 20 ton.As manufactured by La Crosse Trailer and Equipment Co;Rogers Bros.Co. This looks to be almost identical to the JAHN trailer . The Rogers is known as Model H-20-L-S-14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Watkins Posted April 2, 2010 Author Share Posted April 2, 2010 There is a Jahn trailer in preservation with Steve Guest in Chedworth. He has taken it to GDSF, and Kemble. With M2 High speed tractor on it. Anyone got any photographs. I don't know its age but it had been with PSA for a while.See post #! here http://hmvf.co.uk/forumvb/showthread.php?14296-What-is-the-story-on-the-Beltring-Cletrac-project&highlight=cletrac The transporter carrying the Cletrac has all the markings of a Jahn... the outer side frames are identical configuration to our 20 toner Low Boy.... cheers kevin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Watkins Posted April 3, 2010 Author Share Posted April 3, 2010 ny photographs. I don't know its age but it had been with PSA for a while. See post #! here http://hmvf.co.uk/forumvb/showthread.php?14296-What-is-the-story-on-the-Beltring-Cletrac-project&highlight=cletrac Photo of our Jahn working Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Watkins Posted April 3, 2010 Author Share Posted April 3, 2010 on to our 20 toner Low Boy.... cheers kevin A couple more pics of the Jahn working in Hastings, New Zealand. Also a pic of our Guy FABX 6x4 which was the prime mover of the Jahn before we bought our first Scammell Pioneer. The Guy was a fantastic vehicle for its engine capacity and weight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Watkins Posted April 3, 2010 Author Share Posted April 3, 2010 [ATTACH=CONFIG]25238[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]25237[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]25236[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]25235[/ATTACH] A couple more pics of the Jahn working in Hastings, New Zealand.[ATTACH=CONFIG]25232[/ATTACH] Also a pic of our Guy FABX 6x4 which was the prime mover of the Jahn before we bought our first Scammell Pioneer. The Guy was a fantastic vehicle for its engine capacity and weight. ... and a couple of good shots of the Jahn... both photos she is in the "closed up position" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antarmike Posted May 8, 2010 Share Posted May 8, 2010 Steve Guest's Jahn, before he started work on it. (Ex DofE P.S.A.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antarmike Posted May 8, 2010 Share Posted May 8, 2010 and again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyFowler Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 Here's a pic of Steve's trailer being towed by Nick's (Younggun) Explorer with Bernard's (Gritineye) as a load at last years War and Peace Show Kevin ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T80030 Posted May 13, 2010 Share Posted May 13, 2010 This one may even be yours Kevin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poptopshed Posted May 13, 2010 Share Posted May 13, 2010 Steves trailer last weekend with a Leyland Project about to be unloaded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Watkins Posted May 21, 2010 Author Share Posted May 21, 2010 This one may even be yours Kevin THis is the best photo I have seen of a Jahn in service, especially a Scammell in front. Thankyou very much... greatly appreciated.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T80030 Posted May 25, 2010 Share Posted May 25, 2010 Now to make things difficult apparently this is a Jahn trailer as well Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichelK Posted May 25, 2010 Share Posted May 25, 2010 Maybe an strange question, is there no reference list of trailer types that Jahn build during WW2 :confused: Or something similar? MichelK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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