Where are the german range wrecks?

[eddy8men]

these were definately targets,they look like they'd spent 50 years on the impact area as you can see.

does anyone know what happened to them?

 

 

 

eddy

[steveo578]

Aren't these two shown on Hartziel. de?

 

steve

[Davies373]

Are you sure of these designations? possible the Lee/Grants were M7B2 priest SPH. The Fallingbostel Grant, I am fairly sure is the M4A1 75mm -ex MADP rebuild from the Netherlands, of course I am quite happy to be prooved wrong;).

The M3 I think I saw in fallingbostel looked in need of some cosmetic TLC and had a fully restored american halftrack for company which I saw being driven about.

[eddy8men]

don't think it's these two mate,the one on hartziel says it's from garlstedt but the training area looks more like kirkcudbright to me?

 

eddy

[steveo578]

Hi Eddy

 

It was the Garlstedt A34 Comet I was thinking of -due to the position of the turret. What do you mean Kirkcudbright :nut:

 

Steve

[steveo578]

The two M3 reported in the siding area near Falingbostel are possibly these two M7B2 which were photographed by an armour enthusiast in the Falingbostel REME at or about the time in question (early 1990s) after removal from a range they were parked on a side road and were to be sent to a well known private yard in UK about 1995-6.

 

I am certain my contacts in the Falingbostel REME would have mentioned an M3 or derivative such as an M31 in their camp or surounding area, most enthusiasts get very excited if they find an M3 in Europe. As I said before if anyone has photos or knows where the M3s went I will be happy to be wrong.:-)

 

The final 2 photos of M7B2 are from an earlier example of an ex German range M7B2 which was returned to the UK in the 1980s I believe it eventually went to USA and are included as it gives some details of the extended gun mount.

 

 

 

 

Steve

[Richard Farrant]

incidentally the pics and article came from dave whitehouse,i served with sgt dave whitehouse at 29 regt rlc lad in 96 , i wonder if it's the same guy.

 

 

 

 

Eddy,

 

I am sure that is the same Dave. Not seen him for some years, but we did used to meet up as he has had a few MV's in the past.

[eddy8men]

thanks richard

it would be nice to see dave again,he was living in worcester last i heard,maybe i'll see him at an event one day.it's a small world.

 

eddy

[eddy8men]

steve

ref the kirkcudbright comet ,if you look on the surviving comets web site there's a pic of one on kirkcudbright ,call it a hunch but the training area on the hartziel pic looks like kirkcudbright.

have a look and see what you think.

 

eddy

[longydagun]

so the possibilities of any of these still being there is slim?

if there was a good chance i know of some people who have the money who would have them and put them back to how they should be ( the ww2 at least)

many thanks

al

[eddy8men]

after a request for info on german wrecks i thought i'd bump this thread again and maybe get some more info on what's still out there.

any guys still serving that have seen ww2 wrecks still on the training areas ?

 

rick

[tankysteve]

Photos firstly a very blured photo of the M3 at Smith Barracks Baumholder- photo via museum

staff taken with a polaroid hence the poor resolution, as far as I am aware it was the only M3 in Germany in the 1990s

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The second photo is the M4A1 mentioned previously at Fallingbostel in the early 1990s special thanks to dave? the photographer - no doubt in breach of MOD PR department.

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Piece of useless information Steve:

The Sherman photographed at Lumsden Bks entrance , Fallingbostel, was a fairwell present for the outgoing CO Lt Col Hammerbeck. Nomad was the name on his Challenger 1 & the number was his Regt number.

 

Tankysteve