Cel Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 Hi all New here, and have a question: we have this wagon on cushion wheels, it has an all riveted frame, leaf springs, brakes on front wheels. The wheels have wooden spokes and steel rims. In the cushion is casted 'Hutchinson' and 'made in France'. The front axle is also wider than the rear, maybe because of the steering? Seems to be original though. Whatever it is, it will make a nice fit with our WW1 truck that yet has to arrive. Thanks, Marcel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony B Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 Looks like a job for TIM!! A lot of old truck chassis seem to survive as farm trailers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antarmike Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 I would have said this was a trailer from new, not a Lorry made into a trailer.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony B Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 Stupid question , but I'm supposing the vehicle makers also made trailers to go with them, and would have used the same design? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great War truck Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 Hi all it will make a nice fit with our WW1 truck that yet has to arrive. Which WW1 truck is that? Photos please. It looks to be a very professionally built trailer. Lots were made during WW1 for all sorts of jobs. And as Tony says many more trailers made from WW1 trucks have survived. Interesting to see wooden wheels though. Dont see that on many trailers. Have you got any more photos of the wheels, hubs and axle? Thanks Tim (too) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rlangham Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 I saw a similar wagon yesterday and the wheels seemed like those on Albion A10's - i'll upload the photos later Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cel Posted September 28, 2009 Author Share Posted September 28, 2009 Thanks for the replies. The trailer looks to be factory built and has forged axles. I will post detailed pictures of the wheels later on this week. The pictures of the truck will be posted as soon as it arrives, but here is a teaser. All the best Marcel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great War truck Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 Crikey, that is not much of a clue. I am fairly certain that it is of French origin, so maybe Renault or a De Dion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antarmike Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 Thanks for the replies. The trailer looks to be factory built and has forged axles. I will post detailed pictures of the wheels later on this week. The pictures of the truck will be posted as soon as it arrives, but here is a teaser. All the best Marcel Nice Dog! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony B Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 Would wodden whels have been used as they would have been easier to repair replace than steel? After all there were still plenty of wheelwrights and carraige makers about at the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cel Posted September 29, 2009 Author Share Posted September 29, 2009 Crikey, that is not much of a clue. I am fairly certain that it is of French origin, so maybe Renault or a De Dion. Yes, it is of French origin but you don't see those very often. It's a Peugeot 1525. Here is a picture I found of one that could be mine but it isn't as this one has a slightly different radiator. I hope to take delivery before winter sets in. It is in fairly good shape, but flywheel and cone clutch are missing. I'll have to go and take measurements of another one, it should not be too difficult to recreate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony B Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 Nice find, bet it isn't in that condition though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great War truck Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 Oh, one of those! I didnt think of that. Looking forwards to seeing more pictures when it arrives. How very exciting! Tim (too) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cel Posted September 30, 2009 Author Share Posted September 30, 2009 Nice find, bet it isn't in that condition though. No it isn't, but for its age it looks quite good. The engine is loose (in fact it was that loose that I had to check if it still had the pistons), but as I said it is missing the flywheel and the cone clutch. Quite easy to make the flywheel, for the clutch I will have to make a pattern and have it casted in aluminium. Guess I derailed this thread, anyone can tell me more about the trailer? Marcel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great War truck Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 Have you got the book "Les camions de la Victoire"? Tim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cel Posted September 30, 2009 Author Share Posted September 30, 2009 No, but I think I have seen it once. If we are talking the same book, there was one picture in it with a Peugeot 1525. Marcel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great War truck Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 yes, i think you are right. i will have a look through it later. I have this photo of a Peugeot. is this the same type as yours: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great War truck Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 I have gone through the Camions book and there is one picture of the Peugeot. Lots of pictures of trailers too, but nothing exactly the same as yours although there are several similar ones. Tim (too) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cel Posted October 2, 2009 Author Share Posted October 2, 2009 Tim, yes it is the same one as in your picture. It looks even like this one also has only one headlight. I like the details like PM (Poids Mort or dead weight)=3000 and PU (Poids utile or payload)=3000. Can't wait to have it home! I will post some detail pictures of the trailer this weekend. Marcel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great War truck Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 Hi Marcel I have just found another photo. This one also has only 1 headlight. I had not noticed this before. How do you plan to restore yours? Thinking about it, there is a restored one at the Berliet collection. Are there any more that you are aware of? Tim (too) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charawacky Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 (edited) Have a look at this link. http://www.britishpathe.com/record.php?id=79282 Mirror! better definition in places: http://www.britishpathe.com/record.php?id=74877 The trucks appear to have the same radiator but steering wheel seems to be higher, could be the angle of the camera shot. A later shot (mirror) of unloading looks to have simular porportions to the other pictures on this thread and the fuel filler is in the centre of the bulkhead. I too look forward to pictures of your lorry being posted. Tom Edited October 3, 2009 by Charawacky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runflat Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 Tom, these look like FIATs - the Peugeot scuttle is very distinctive with its rounded courners, wheras the ones in the clip are flat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cel Posted October 3, 2009 Author Share Posted October 3, 2009 What a great movie! I also think they are not Peugeots, but they look very much alike. I like the shot at the end of the movie where a traction engine is pulling the canons with a Holt 75 (I think) standing next to it. I will start a separate thread on the Peugeot as soon as it arrives. All the best Marcel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony B Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 Intrestingly, notice despite the common belif that the Western Front was a wasteland, there are trees and the road bed appears in good condition. Also the end clip of the steamer the three, possibly four revetted dug out bays could be an articulation test, maybe repaired carragies? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runflat Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 Marcel, does it look anything like this by any chance? :coffee: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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