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I rember this as it was my trailer which was brought in to the show ground ready for loading up after being at the ground most of the week and needing a smart getaway in a space that had been empty all week and when i returned to camp you had began to place out your guy lines, so it is not a case of not moving it. If you had a long journey, got held up and wetter at the booking office i am afraid it wasn`t caused by the trailer. Ashley Thats not quite how i remember it, we spoke to you before i started to put my tent up. But my memory might be playing tricks on me, it had been a long day. Your right my troubles on my journey were not caused by you or your trailer and is not the point I'm making. Bouncing a trailer around after the jourmey was something i could have done without, but you can park your trailer any where you like for me mate. But if the rules were up held then the trailer wouldn't have been there in the first place.

Hello Radek, Thats annoying he went back on his word, I did see the austin book but didn't buy it. To be honest i don't think your missing much, the Bart Vanderveen article on the hillman is better. Have you got any pictures of hillman tilly's in your archives? Your not stupid, your passion for austins shows that.

Hello, There is a new book on the hilman tilly which covers it quite in depth, although i think a lot of it has been taken from the original publications and still leaves some questions. The book is, Army wheels in detail. Hillman 10HP Light Utility by Petr Brojo (RADEK do you know him?) and Micheal Sackleton Published by Capricorn Publications ISBN 970-80-903945-8-6. There were two hillmans on show at war and peace. This on was a 1939 rebuilt on a 1944 chassis, and looking through my new boo a number of other things are later features to! And although i thought i had i didn't take a picture of the other, i think the dust got on my brain!! Radek, i don't think the holes in the rear floor are for the motley mount, i believe the correct mount is the sustained fire mount. In the new book it shows the holes as a PCD much smaller and more holes than we have. Also there was an austin with the same holes on show to. A friend of mine has the sustained fire mount and when he comes over next we are going to try it in, i'll keep you posted.

I think its fair to say when the show starts to charge, the quality of the vehicles goes down. I paid last year to book in war and peace, after a 19 hour trip down in the bedford (two breakdowns), £100+ in fuel, to arrive at the booking in tent to be told we don't have any entrant packs, i was to tired to argue, then was made to sit in the rain for 20 mins before i could get in (no fun in a open cab) I'd got wet enough coming round the M25. Put my tent up around someone's car transporter trailer, which they wouldn't move (like i'm sure this shouldn't be on the showground). Went to the toilet to freshen up and there was no water, brilliant, I won't be taking a truck again, even if they paid me!!!! I'll just go in my car and pay on the gate, or next time wear some camo pants and get in free!!!!

Introduced willow to her new stable mate. Found the chassis plate and thanks to hanno and richard i've got a lot more information on the tilly. I still need to find a way to date the chassis number if anyone can help. I now know it should only have one headlamp, so i'm still in the dark!!!

I've had this email forwarded to me from stuart. This all started with a phone call from richard farrant, the son of the veteran wanted to get his father and a 25pdr together again for his birthday. Thanks to richard and the ponderosa i think we made his day :thumbsup: . Hi Stuart Just wanted to drop you a line to say that yourself, Howard, Kath and the rest of the team, made Sunday July 11 an absolute fantastic memorable day for my Father and our Vera. Your overwhelming warmth, generosity and personal touches were very much appreciated by the both of them along with our family members. The nostalgia of the music, song and dance and the authentic militaryness of it all seemed to have re-awoken those lost six years of his youth when the meaning of a great day out was making it to bedtime with your heart still beating. He rang me Monday night bristling with excitement and bent my ear for over thirty minutes thanking every man and his dog for what they had done especially making him guest of honour with his executive lunch and the presentation of his very apt cake. Many, many thanks again to you all and to your connections who started the ball rolling for me from that phone call in Kent just a couple of weeks ago. A truly impressive effort. He finally got his five minutes of fame.

And i'll be there making sure you've done it right!!! lol and trying to sneek into the driving seat.

Hello Hanno, The mw's are still here, but they will be moving on now i have this one. No i don't have the wheels and tracks articles, which ones should i be looking for? I think i agree with you about the gun mount, much preffer a few nurses in the back!!

Hello, Well degsy I made it to yorkshire and back without any problems!! The show was a massive success to say the least, with no less than three veterans in attendance. A really nice thing was how far the ponderosa went out of thier way to make them feel welcome, and treated them like the hero's they are. Well done to you all. The show site was very well planned out, and the organiser took the time to come and meet you. We were given meal packs on both days and had entry to the ponderosa farm and rare breeds, which took a good couple of hours to walk around on its own. Although numbers were slightly down, due to poor attendance, but all i can say is you all missed out. There was a fine turn out of vehicles. We were blessed with good weather all weekend. The re-enactors put on a superb display both days, and it was incredibly well planned out. Here's some pictures i took. Willow with an old friend. Unfortunatley the Bedford oy booked in didn't arrive, one short of a full set, but there was a lovely QL. Here's something you don't see very often!! The story behind itis, there were two morris quads, limbers, and guns on route and both broke down, so the super bedford went to their help, well done Mike. Two trips later and they were all on the show ground and both running by this morning, ready for the display. I think in all there were 7 dunkirk era vehicles there today. The cdsw is a fantastic piece of kit up close, it moved glynn that much he polished his tip. Here's harry the desert rat, I was lucky enough to be asked to pick him up from the car park, in willow, and drive him to the arena for the artillery display. Its always moving how down to earth these people are about what they did. He was on the 25pdrs in africa and they had two firing to mark his 92nd birthday. He was in the bedford in no time, and telling me how he was called up from a T.A. base just around the corner from me in stockport. He went on to ask me, why do we all do this, and the answer was, to remember the people like you. The other two veterans were found walking around the showsite, complete with medals. Sadly thats all the pictures i took. There was a long line of american vehicles too, but no canadian. It was great to spend some time with old friends, and also meet some new ones, i'll look forward to see you again eddie.

Happy Birthday Mate You've been peeking before i had chance to wrap it. If i'd still been over there i'd have been straight over for a beer!!! I'm still over the moon with the tilly but any more bargains and i'll be on my way back for some more ham and cheese. :blush: I dont think you'll get in it mate, I've always liked the hilmans, you've more chance of getting willow off me.

Hello radek, Thank you for the reply, the pictures are very interesting. The holes you have look very similar to the ones in mine. So it's the same mount that was also fitted to the mw? Are there any of these around? I do have a picture of a restores 15cwt with one in but i've not seen one in the flesh. We've wanted one of these for over twenty years so feel very lucky to have dropped on this one. Is there any information around regarding chassis numbers and year of manufacture?

Hello Mate, I'm not sure of its history yet. As far as i know it hasn't been restored before and the tilly register don't know of it. Thats exactly what i'm going to try and find out before i start the restoration. I'm not sure why this thread has been moved here, and tagged RESTORATION as this isn't a restoration blog , i'm just trying to find more about about the hilman tilly's and the mounts they carried.

Hello, Found my next Project, a hilman tilly. I've always liked these but never been lucky enough to find one till now. Thanks to a very good friend i got the chance of this one. There's plenty of work to do, mainly underneath, but it seem's fairly complete. I'm starting to make a list of the parts i need so far, but in all honesty i know very litle about the tilly's, so any advice or pointers would be greatly appreciated. What is the best book to get on the tilly's? I'm also looking for manuals and handbooks. I plan to spend plenty of time looking into what i've got before i start work on it. So far i've found the chassis number, and the contract plate. Also i've been told it has, at one time, been fitted with a bren gun mount in the rear body. The wooden floor is original and it does have a series of holes in with captive threads underneath, has anyone come across this before orhave pictures of it?

It's a simple traficator as you said, the driver can use his own arm on the drivers side. There is a small lever above the dash to raise the arm when turning left.

Absolute rubbish :banghead:, and totally untrue. It's completely the opposite their helping the exhibitor out. Everyone who's booked in will have meals provided for them, and thats something that the business minded shows have completely forgotten. I've been on the phone to the organiser tonight and he is completely against exhibitors having to payto display there vehicles, seen as your making the show. I guess this is a rumor started by post war vehicle owners who have been refused entry, and have even threatened to block the entrance if they can't bring their land rovers. :yawn: To anybody who has the slightest interest in going please take the time to ring the organsier (stuart) and get the FACTS from him. He rang me personally, his interest and keeness to have a good spead of wartime vehicles, his politeness and respect won me over and convinced me to put willow back on the road, tax, mot, and insure willow just for this one show.

Hello, I've been looking through some of the drawings i have for the bedford canvass, and it seems the answer was there all along. One of the drawings has has a few changes, and this was mainly the colour. The original colour was khaki green. Then the drawing the was updated in 1947, when the canvass colour was changed to brown, then it was re-drawn in 1957 and the colour was changed to service green.

Cheers mike, that puts a answer to that. :kissoncheek:

hello Alex, I've missplaced my drawings but i'm sure i'll come across them soon!! If i can't i'll do some more off the parts i've got and send them over to you, here's some pictures to be going on with, This is the arm from the back of the cab, i'm just missing the ear plates to hold the rifle clips. On caruthers the ear plate are welded onto the arm, the one i copied was from an aeroscreen bedford and was bolted together, i've seen them done both ways. So neithers wrong, but his arm dose look a bit shorter than mine. Some original wooden blocks mounted on the floor. The base of the pocket in the wooden block isn't parrallel to the top edge of the wooden block, you can see it in this picture, i'm not sure why this is, but the three sets i have are all the same. Also you can see the plate the blocks are attached to is welded to the floor, but there are also two holes at the front edge of the plate that aren't used in this case. The two holesare for when a wooden floor was fitted to the cab and then you could bolt it down. These two holes were still in my floor and lined up prefectly with the plate i got. I just show's there was some planning behind using "whatever they had on the day".

hello alex, This is the best picture have, it's basically two wooden blocks with in slots for the rifle buts, bolted to an angled plate which bolts to the floor. The top of the rifle is held by an arm, which comes out drom the back of the cab, at about 45 degrees, with two ear plates on with the standard rifle clip on. I have got some drawings somewhere, if you P.M. you email i'll send them over to you. I'm having some of the wooden blocks made at the local joinery shop, when i get them i'll stick a picture up.

Hello Mark, I'd call that a miracle!! I was contacted by the owner, glyn, and went to visit him at the end of march. The truck was then no more than a chassis, two axles and an engine. When he said he wanted to take it to dunkirk i thought he ment the 75th. I heard from him a few times and he rang me last week to say he'd made it to dunkirk. In the time he's had he's made a very good job of it. To be honest i'm amazed he made it at all, well done that man.

I know i can't even say it!! and it's only an hour away. This sounds like a really good event, the organiser really sounds like he is trying to achieve sometime a lot of shows have lost, and its all for a good cause instead of filling someones pocket.

Hello, I had a call tonight from a chap organising a 1940's weekend. This link will tell you a little bit more, http://www.ponderosa-park.co.uk/centre/whatson.php The owner and founder of the ponderosa was so impressed with elvington he decided to organise his own show. He wants to keep the theme world war two, but is letting certain post war vehicles attend, but he won't be having lines of land rovers. The event is in it's third year, there will be three live firing 25pdr's with the quads and limbers, the list of vehicles he's already got booked in is very impressive. He's got 120 vehicles booked in so far. He's hoping to have all 4 makes of tilly there, four k2's and a full set of bedfords, mw ox oy and ql. There will also be wartime renactors. I spent an hour on the phone and he was realing off the events that will be happening. On the saturday night there's a fortys dance, a singers been book, they've booked a pattern impersonator and are trying to find a churchill, and truck load of beers been ordered. The organiser has a more old school attitude to things, british, american, and german vehicles all given there own area's. I was really impressed with the person i spoke to, he was really keen to get vehicles there, and make a good show for the exhibitor. As you can see there's loads to do at the poderosa and his very words were you can have as many tickets as you like if you bring a vehicle. Anyone who is intrested in attending a good ww2 show please P.M. me and i'll give you stuarts number and he can tell you the full programme of events.

Richards right as usual, the QL's get a lovely whine on when you wind them up, but it's not as loud as a k5, we followed one once and it's a lovely sound. Also a friend of mine used to drive the K5's and he loved them. I've always been led to believe the only vehicle that was better than the bedfords were the austins.

The 8cwt along with the 30cwt were phased out early on in the war, about 1941, thats why there isn't many pu's about same as the oxd's. The 15cwt's were produced right through the war so there's more of them. Does anyone know how many mcc pu's were made?

Hello Tim, No need to fear mate, you have the right cushions. I had a look at a very nice 15 cwt cs8 over the weekend and his cushions were the same. The strap at the rear holds the cushion in place when the seat is tilted forward. Bedford seats don't tilt, so no strap at the back. From what i can remember you are right about the seats, those morris were thrown together!!!! Its just a base and the back of the seat is a cushion on the back of the cab.