No offence meant mate. Just back from the Rock, got in this am at 06:00 B*** drive back with roadworks, typing brain a bit slow. You know what polotics are like in the Island. The easy way to settle the argument would be bore a hole from the top, and drop a camera. Trouble is land owner is seeing pound notes (Yes, they still use Pound notes in the Islands) so acess is via drain. That has block in it, but a tool has been made to work through. The tunnel under the church has been partially re-opened. Again the tunnels cross boundaries. Some land owners are fine others are not The CIOS 2010 REVIEW has more details, just trying to get hold of it.