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  1. To revive a quiet thread. At least one Mk2 did make it to the Gulf. The Daimler Ferret Appreciation page in FB has talked about this, so it seems the official records are not quite accurate.
  2. Have you looked at the possibility of cold stitching the crack? If it is suitable it could save the engine, thus removing the need to stick a new one in there.
  3. Exactly. Peel Ports set up a company for the sole purpose of selling her. That way PP can pocket the cash while shirking any responsibility.
  4. I can't say for sure, I get the feeling she was an embarrassment to them, perhaps a sign that they went back on their word. (I remember visiting her when she was still owned by the Warship Preservation Trust and being told the Peel Ports had guaranteed her berth for long as needed etc.) Peel Ports certainly went to extraordinary measures to make sure she was destroyed. Over the years there were several groups (including the HMS Plymouth Trust) who were willing to take her off PP's hands, including paying them her value in scrap.
  5. Let's hope the new version of CMV combines the best of both magazines. I too have noticed that CMV has been getting thinner of late.
  6. Peel Holding is a massive company with a lot of political clout, it runs at least one of the MOD's dockyards (Chatham from memory) and owns most of the docks in the UK along with a lot of MOD and ex MOD land. It also has a reputation for asset stripping: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Peel_Group At present there is a campaign to save HMS Edinburgh: https://www.facebook.com/saveHMSEdinburgh Let's hope that is more successful and there is hope the HMS Plymouth Trust will manage to save another ship.
  7. Latest update regarding HMS Plymouth. She is gone. I will include the full post from Facebook along with the link. "It is with deep regret to have to report this update to you tonight. Having spoken with Gareth Griffiths and Roy Martin tonight at length they have asked me to report the following; HMS Plymouth is no more. As you will be all aware, Gareth and Roy flew out to Turkey on Monday and have worked tirelessly around the clock to gain access to the scrap yard, SOK Denizcuilik were HMS Plymouth arrived a few weeks ago. The yard has a heavy security presence which includes the Turkish military so gaining access was not particularly an easy task but were eventually granted access to the senior management of the yard with detailed documentation from Conservative MEP David Campbell-Bannerman who has been a keen supporter of HMS Plymouth Trust Ltd and played an active role in the campaign to preserve the historic warship in the UK. The senior management of the yard have been described by Roy and Gareth as professional, welcoming and amicable. HMS Plymouth was discussed in detail over tea and biscuits. Sadly however the outcome was not what we all held a glimmer of hope for. The scrap yard confirmed the following, which I think you will agree is quite disturbing: 1) HMS Plymouth was sold to SOK Denizcuilik by a “subsidiary” of Peel Holdings which was set up for the sole purpose of selling HMS Plymouth and wound up immediately after the vessel was collected. 2) Peel Holdings placed the following clauses in the sale: - The deconstruction of HMS Plymouth must start immediately on arrival at the yard and given priority over all other work. - No photographs or access may be granted to HMS Plymouth by third parties. - The vessel must be completely destroyed; the yard can not resell, give away or otherwise transfer HMS Plymouth to third parties nor negotiate any other use for the vessel. The purpose of the sale is for the vessel to be completely destroyed. -Photographic evidence of the deconstruction can only be released once the vessel no longer exists. 3) The most bizarre and concerning part of the contract which will all most certainly be investigated now by relevant authorities is this one, again, wording may not be exact: “This deconstruction contract is a top secret case in collaboration with the UK Government. If this contract is in any way breached, Peel Holdings will ensure that you will not receive anymore deconstruction contracts from the MOD for any other vessels.” It is at this point Roy and Gareth were shown pictures of HMS Plymouth being scrapped from the cutting of the bow, removal of the bridge to just her remains on the beach which I believe is somewhere between mid ships to stern minus superstructure. So it is with much deep regret and upset that I have had to bring you all this news which is effectively the end of our campaign and more importantly, the end of HMS Plymouth which is what it was all about. I understand that this news will bring great disappointment and upset to you all and I share in that with you though I do not pretend to “understand” how each individual feels as this will be very different to all of us in how it effects us. This update doesn’t really have a parting line, there is really no more to say on it. On behalf of HMS Plymouth Trust Ltd I would like to say how heart warming it has been to have 100% support from you all during the last two and a half years and that we are eternally appreciative of you all. HMS Plymouth Trust Ltd. " https://www.facebook.com/groups/SAVE.HMS.PLYMOUTH.OPEN/permalink/567099763417246/
  8. Hi, things are moving pretty quickly just now and not all the information is in the public domain (Due to negotiations and behind the scences stuff) This is my summary from what I can gather on the FB page: She is now in the scrapyard and things are going a bit 'funky' The yard stopped talking to the Turkish lawyers and the trust for a while. However representatives of the trust are flying out to inspect her, making sure the yard has not gone back on it promise to delay the scrapping. There is now a mystery backer involved who, with the trust's, blessing is interested in buying her, however it seems the yard will not let her go for anything less than scrap value and a guarantee that it will not be held liable for any court action. It seems that the UK Government put in a clause during the sale, saying she must be scrapped, however it is pretty well established that she is a charitable asset, (Once a CA, then always a CA, so the UK Government had no authority to insist on her destruction.) and the MOD has stated it has no interest in her either way. If I find out anything more concrete I will post it here. The representatives should be touching down in Turkey very soon now. The link on FB is: https://www.facebook.com/groups/SAVE.HMS.PLYMOUTH.OPEN/ Donations are still being gratefully accepted on the Trust's website: http://www.hmsplymouthtrust.co.uk/
  9. If memory serves, Fighters were run on a pretty high TEL content petrol, I've found a link that discusses Octane ratings during WW2 http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/296859-High-Octane-fuel-in-Britain-WW2-Forums
  10. It's not a waste. You could get some other bits and use it. It would just take a bit of research and I'm sure you could end up with your own 'custom' rig.
  11. Hi and welcome ;-) Is this one of the Bedford O Series ones?
  12. Hi and welcome back There is a website that has lots of useful info that could help http://www.fv432.co.uk/ Along with the forum http://wwwfv432couk.freeforums.org/ (I am not associated with the FV432 website or forum)
  13. That page is looking for the US PASGT style helmet shell Full NIJ IIIA Perhaps the repeat bidders are hoping to create a shortage by buying and hoarding the stock?
  14. Congratulations to you both
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