steveo578

There is probably quite a simple reason for these stories un cut steel (as opposed to nicely shredded tin from scrapped cars) takes a lot of prep to make it smeltable -another example is one of the Irish Churchills was cut up after they were declared obsolete- they used the other for targeting of Charlie G etc and actually buried the other- the reason was it took too much effort to cut it up (I believe it may have been the sole Mk7 so not a case of cutting through the rivets). In both stories the tanks were buried in steel slag again a raw material for resmelting that takes a lot of prep and energy for a pretty poor return. I am sure that in both these instances eventually the slag and vehicles would have been processed through the smelters- (I am fairly sure the slag piles have long gone) -but even nationalised steel industries had to show returns to their "betters" so the slag and unreduced vehicles would have waited either a time when metal was extremely short (expensive) or the price of smelting was reduced or technology improved- price reduced -probably simple economics -one of the reason why most of the iron rallings ripped out in 1938-42 ended up being dumped in the North Sea -it was uneconomical to process. Steve

I've been umable to forward these be PM system Here are the photos of the U/c I mention -they were on Nienburg range. Steve

Doesn't mean that because other furums say something that it is right. Below is a poor photo I am including for the purposes of making the point -these are the converted Australian Centurions of which there were 12. you will notice even with the poor quality of the photo that they are significantly different from those shown in post#1 of this thread. Steve

So I take it that the turret is under protective covers until that time then? great stuff if its not breaking any official secrets where is the location and what is the background of the M10. Steve

It was seen during a parade in the 1980s gun tank not dozer, but I can't remember if it is the rome museum example or whether it is part of the Italian Army collection -they also have various Italian (obviously) mobile exhibits such as a Semoventi M42 a M14/42 or M13/40 and a P26/40.

Chieftain; I think your belief that the drivers station is off centre is an optical illusion -they are undoubtably Chieftain and a comparatively light touch conversion- even the original suspension plates have been retained -slightly modified, The barrel is a real give away -i'm looking at a photo of a Viberts M1 ex Cent mk5/1 the fume extractor is nearer the turret, gun is shorter, side plate cover the whole of the suspension but continue up to meet the horizontal walkways.

It alot better than a couple you've seen eh;) It would be nice to know how far the turret is on for this M10. Steve

Didn't the Rome military vehicle museum have a Sherman V runner or was it altered like a M4A4(T). Steve

Paddy1 Its already been posted on the thread dated 15-2-11 A very good documentary (4th and 7th dragoon guards) Steve:cheesy:

The Police carbine has a -fire/safe lever on the left side of the receiver -whereas the service weapon L2A1-3 has a safe/repetative/auto lever - simples:-D

Happens regularly -I wish there was a warning to say that a new post has been added -whilst using the dialogue box. Steve

three types L2A1 this was designed to be self disassembled -ie components on the weapon could be used for further disassembled. L2A2 components of weapon no longer designed for disassembly a finger guard was added, the sights altered, butt strengthened bolt altered to prevent impromper assembly. L2A3 Sight altered slightly, stamped butt components, chamber modified again. As it's from Africa watch out for Sterling Police Carbine -semi automatic used in Kenya. No doubt some-one may have the apprpriate marking -but it depends on what country they are from.

nothing to get excited about from what I can see of them (they are badly scanned) it is similar to those old Bovington modelmaker plans of the 1960s -I could up load them but can't justify it for interlectual study. Steve

Inns of Court Rgt. was a pre war TA Rgt. In theory one of the oldest none regular units in the British Army dating back to Elizabethian times. King George III named them the "Devils Own" when being told they were all lawyers:shocked:. The Inns of Court Volunteers became an officer training unit in 1859. Then became a Rifle Brigade battalion. During World War One it again became an officers training unit, but actually went on active service as the London Rgt. At the time the photos were taken in 1938-9 it was a perculiar mixed cavalry/infantry unit rather like a Yeomany Rgt. It became part of the RAC in 1940 as an armoured car rgt. It supported 3rd Canadians during Normandy and later I Corps recce component. Post War it became part of the City of London Yeomany, I think it became the signals Rgt to part of an SAS TA bat, more recently -but could be wrong on that -amalgamation of amalgamation of amalgamation.

Good one Tony- I must learn to write proper english:red:

Surely the beard precludes them being commisioned? at least to most regiments. My father used to recount when food was short in Burma the company cook chased down a wild goat with a Thompson.

There was a 3 bank -the Lycoming T1300 -three 6 cylinder Lycoming aircraft motors ganged together and fitted probably with some difficulty into an M3A1 its displacment was 1300cu inches and developed 560hp and is supposed to make the hapless M3A1 rattle along at 40mph. There were also twin bank versions of the 9cylinder Guiberson T1020 -the T2040 and again a twin version of the T1400 - T2800 and would have produced 474 and 685HP respectively had they been completed for installation into the Sherman Steve

So you're taking your Sherman back to its wartime condition rather than a M4A4(transforme) as it would be in French post war service? Steve

http://www.youtube.com/user/skadill#p/u/3/oFwX5AU6-Vc there is an M6 hst at the end of the vancouver island log photos video

My previous comment regarding TN-C systems has been misunderstood -I expect that the output earthing pin would already be connected to the generating set frame and any other "expossed conductive part" -ie metal work. Without an earthing rod or a low impedance connection to an earthed source the entire generating set is in effect an IT system, as I said electrical installations are more complex than most people realise- the quote proves my point there are 3 types of supply used in domestic installation TT, TN-S and TN-C-S only the later has a connection between neutral and earth (connecting the supplers earth steel/lead sheath to the neutral line at the point the supply enters the house), TN-S the earth is the outer steel lead sheath of the supply cable and TT is a supply which does not have any earth supplied by the electricity company -it is the consumers responsiblity to supply an adequate earthing electrode. In no case is it legal to connect the earth and neutral in a domestic installation and should that be done upstream of an RCD the system will not energise. 17th edition IEE regs BS761 551-4-4 2 requires all circuits (not just those supplied by sockets and plugs) supplied by a portable generating set to be protected by an RCD not exceeding 30mA. As I've said before find a local qualified electrician for advice. Steve

Yes I've watched it -for TV its reasonable but then with Peter Kosminsky as writer it's going to be of a better quality than most stuff. I'm mainly watching for how it deals with how it portrays the Jews etc-I find it interesting that the elderly Sgt lives in "Yidsley" in Leeds if I read the sub titles correctly, if I'm correct on that point it is not very likely for some-one who had a "bad time" in Palestine:confused:. After reviewing 4OD the location was Armley not Woodsley, although probably Armley in the 1950-60s would be more mixed than it is now -well different mix. The tech is a bit abysmal -the Sten gun thing mentioned by "Ferretfixer" is really annoying -but I've had a long discussion with an Israeli weapons instructor with this regard- and couldn't convince him of the correct method of holding the thing -so it might be indemic in Israeli military culture going back to the period of the film under discussion but I doubt it as I've seen photos of Israeli terrorists holding Stens correctly, but then again who trained the Hagguna/Stern Gang/Irgun etc. There is the use of a Ferret in the movie and I think the H/T has external rear tanks which is a late 1960s early 1970s mod. I think possibly better kit could have been used and definate need for better British military advisers -little things like inappropriate salutes and sloppy brasses etc, interchangabilty of weapons -one minute the sgt has a Mk2 Sten -shortly after he has swapped it for a Mk4 .303 and his Sten ends up with a broken/bent shoulder plate in part3. Steve

looked at the pic and apart from the horizontal lines near the heath fire you mention I've marked in circles what could be individual targets and the squares could shows the remenants of vehicle lines -where derelict trucks were placed in lines like convoys -there was a major vehicle line at Goswick placed at right angles to the tide line -so much stuff that it was still there in 1995, all rust, buckled tin and rubber though. Steve

That type of sheepfold is quite ancient and are wide spread in Southern Scotland and Northern England, some of them are even bigger and have there own names -an example is Mountshilly on the Otterburn Training Area. I don't know why they were built that way -there must be a good reason but I loose interest in sheep unless it comes with boiled potatoes peas and mint sauce.:-D But aren't these map sites incredible:thumbsup: Does the 1945 photos show anything at the other marked areas in particular the one marked Target disused.

I am only relating what the guys at Fallingbostel told me when I queried how such a light afv could have been recovered in such a good (relatively speaking) condition. I accept your knowledge of Bundeswehr is better than mine. Steve:cheesy:

I heard this before specifically with regard to 'Medusa' generators. I sure the instruction leaflet for this type specifies an earth rod (950s certainly have a earthing stud on the chassis) making the system a TT system but that in theory could cause problems if any livestock came into contact and of course you cant bang a rod into concrete or tarmac. An alternative is to make the unit TN.C by connecting the earth and neutral on the input side of a line with an RCD supplying the load- your tools- microwave lights whatever - really you souldn't run multiple equipment from a small generator - but obviously a powertool and spot lamp often are essential. If you do add a link across the input side of a RCD make sure it is 1). only used with the generator and 2). a clear indelable label is attached stating that a combined earth and neurtal system TNC is in use. Electricals are very complex and of course dangerous so as I can't see the problem I am giving you this advise with the standard disclaimer -I'm not responsible if you fiddle with something you don't understand -you are probably not a competant person as defined in law- no insult intended - might be an idea to speak to some-one locally who is an approved electrician esp. some-one who for instance does caravan sites and caravans. There are a number of sites which give further advice opinion such as IET forums IEE is the BS7671 regs for electrical instalation but unless you are a grade 3 electrician (2391 or above) you might find it hard to comprehend -certainly none of the apprentices or even some of the sparkies understand it in depth. Steve