recymech66

I wish they'd fit them to the whole in service Land Rover fleet, it would make lifting them a whole lot easier with the MAN SVR.

Fitted only to the newest version of Snatch (Vixen)

You can buy them from most online Land Rover parts dealers or 4x4 specialist retailers online or otherwise I think they cost around 15 quid each. http://www.rebel4x4.co.uk/steering_guards.htm http://www.famousfour.co.uk/foursport/shackle.php

Jate rings on military Land Rovers can be used for lashing/winching and suspend tow and your correct, should always be used as a pair to evenly distribute the load. Your bottom photo shows a civilian pattern towing/lashing eye not fitted to any inservice military vehicle. Obviously these are fitted to civilian Land Rover Discovery/Defender and are NOT recommended for winching/recovery

My bold, so were would you attach your recovery tackle on 90/110 Defender? (and all Land Rover variants since) there is no other suitable recovery points, jate rings are the way forward, always have been for both suspend tow and winching, they are extremely strong and will only deform/elongate the holes when doing something you shouldn't.

Ooooo that's a cutting remark, we're not all bad you know:cool2:

Standard on Military Land Rovers mate, older MV's like Bedfords etc it's always best to form an apex using strops or chains reeved around the spring hangers, very strong. Quite a few vehicles have recovery eyes (Defence Standard) which are connected/welded to the chassis, these are obvious recovery attachment points and are extremely strong. We are never taught to go around axles as most MV's have driven front axles and the casings (which the half shafts go through) could easily deform, and cause irrepairable damage. Army recovery mechanics employ some different techniques to civilian recovery operators due to the nature of the vehicles, however most recovery techniques can be used for both civilian and military. We could learn a lot about roadside recovery from the civilian operators, especially side over sides, or rollovers in civi speak..

Sorry mate, have to disagree with all that, I use the new MAN SVR everyday at work and have just come back from Canada (BATUS). They are an awesome recovery wagon, yes they have had a few niggles with the electronics but a competent VM/Tech usually sorts out those niggles. Don't forget any new bit of equipment has niggles once put into the hands of the user however that's the best trails you can do, give them to the squaddies to break then they get modded and you end up with decent equipment. As for pulling axles off them, no way. Maybe they have had one incident but I would hazard a guess that these blokes didn't know what they were doing. The wagon is awesome cross country, would be even better with a more aggressive tyre. We've had no real bad feedback from Afghan, I've more than a passing interest, I'm back out there early next year. Awesome truck, don't believe everything you hear.:cool2:

Not this one old bean, give me an SV anyday, awesome wagon comfortable, easy to drive and a BV that never gets cold. winner.:-D

Didn't know were to stick this so hey ho. Announced today that the Snatch Land Rover is to be replaced with this, called the Ocelot, Light Protected Patrol Vehicle.

We got them off the yanks, used in Iraq/Afghan so the yanks would know we were friendly forces and hopefully not brass us up, although didn't work to well in the early stages of Op Telic.

Just for info, that colour scheme is no longer used in BATUS, friendly forces use desert colour while enemy forces use the standard matt black on nato green.

Here's a pic of a T55 shipped back from Iraq last year. Not sure were it ended up.

They weren't runners as such, the packs will have been removed and used in other vehicles.

Just a few gate guardians from BATUS. BATUS HQ Chieftain. BATUS HQ Centurian. Camp Crowfoot Challenger 2. Camp Crowfoot Challenger 2.

They have a couple of these on RAF Akrotiri in Cyprus.

Not any more dear chap, haven't you seen the news lately:(

SVR is even better:-D

Beware of them soft verges :cool2: Oh and a lovely Scammell.

Talking of cranes, here's one I did in Northern Ireland about 13 years ago. Before everybody slates me for winching it over on to it's boom, the drop was about a metre from the road which isn't apparent in the pic's, on the opposite side of the road a house and grounds were preventing us from placing the recovery vehicles in the ideal position so to attempt recovering it onto the road, given were we were and the enemy threat (IRA) authority to winch over, and over onto it's wheels was given. A rep from the crane company came out to inspect prior to winching and accertained only cosmetic damage would be caused and fairly cheap repairs (panels etc) would be needed to get it back on the road. Web album generated by Web Gallery Wizard PRO™.

Very nice, I'll be sure to look in again in 5 years to see the finished models:-D, they'll look awesome once they've been weathered.

Nice one Cosrec, all good sound tips.

How about this one in Iranian hands.

The ANR headset in that pic is designed to fit the Mk 6 combat helmet, there is a different type of ANR headset which fit the current crewguard as it's known.

I'm not quite sure why you've deleted some of your "My c@ck is bigger than your c@ck" comments from your original post? The thread was starting to die down until you popped up with even more negative comments. Please don't take this as a personal attack, and well done for your fund raising achievements.