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Ah I see sorry.

That is correct but originally you said

2320-D-128-721 is the military designation of the commercial parts list 2320-D-128-711 is the military parts list which gives RRC8700 I don't have 721 but I have the Land Rover Defender catalogue STC9038FF & this also gives RRC8700

Yes but what is the full title of your parts book & its reference number? Is it a Rover or a military publication?

That's odd the EMER WV P310 gives the CES as Army Code No. 34173

You have the wrong part number. What you need is RRC8700 for TUL(HS) & TUM(HS) which is 24v What you have is RRC7310 for TUL & TUM which is 12v

John the last time I went there was many years ago when they had some wheeled armour outside the museum. Sadly that has long since gone, the Pig is in IoW I believe. I hope they still have a Vigilant on display, when I went they had no controller for it so I did a swap with something so they had controller for it.

John I had thought about that, but at the time there was an enormous number of products that I had to leave out, otherwise it would have just been a rehash of Issues of Def Stan 01-5. That page was from the current one, I have most of them including Issue 1 also the Defence Guide DG-12 series that predated Def Stans. There is so much that has to be left out. But might be worth including any products that people flag up as being of interest.

Here you are John

The sleeves are here: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Army-Land-Rover-Wolf-Hardtop-Sleeve-Cover-Inlet-Output-Port-TITHONUS-/272430056039?hash=item3f6e18c267:g:M~oAAOSwRJ9XhgkB and the covers here: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Land-Rover-Defender-Wolf-Hard-top-Replacement-sleeve-lid-x-2-NIB-/311733633451?hash=item4894c5c1ab:g:qXkAAOSwHMJYGy7W

Jim although I sold my Vigilants, bins, tripod, controllers etc some years ago I still have a few curiosities that I have hung onto. Two silver-plated Vigilants 3" long that were mounted on ashtrays to give to defence ministers at arms fairs, an instructors book (civilian one predating any MOD publications), the illustrated design publication before it was named Vigilant & I think I have one sighting monocular. If you are googling also look for "Vigilante" this is the wrong name but often gets misnamed as that. Just as my Shorland gets wrongly called a Shortland or a Shoreland, ggrrrr

Jim there is reprint if you scroll down on here: http://www.mark.clubaustin.co.uk/new_page_1.htm The most obvious difference is that a 2/3 carries a spare wheel, the 2/6 does not! Instead it carries spare launching boxes. I remember taking part in a SSVC film on the history of AT guided weapons. It was an official film with the script approved by MOD specialists. Well there were some things I disagreed with in the script about the Hornet/Malkara development. But I did take exception to the presenter describing the Bovington Ferret as a 2/6. I pointed out that it was a mock up & anyone with knowledge of Ferrets & ATGWs will see that this is not a legitimate example. So the script was changed to explain that in this particular vehicle there is a spare wheel but there should really be spare missiles carried instead. I have drawings that I made of the boxes. Of the production ones the early ones had a flat rear end that housed the cable separation reel, later ones had a better designed shaped base had a decent cable reel rather than metal spigots to stop the cable coil slipping off. I think there were 256 rivets on the earlier bin that I tried to emulate. These early bins had locking struts to support the bin on the ground at the correct elevation. On Ferret additional security was needed in the form of a strut from the bin support cradle to a hole with a bar to latch onto the front of the bin. When I last looked at it the display Ferret had one early bin which has no such hole & bar. I have had interesting correspondence a member of the Vickers Vigilant sales team & the CO of 20 Trial Unit who rejected Vigilant twice! Yet Vigilant was favoured over Malkara by Gen Carver in trials in Libya in 1962. But it was a manportable ATGW never originally intended to be stuck on an AFV! Despite the reluctance of the MOD to accept Vigilant with its superior (but more complex & expensive) velocity control the world's obsession with acceleration control guidance provided a cheaper & cheerful alternative. However there was one country who saw the potential & was very keen to buy but the MOD blocked the sales. Anyone guess which country that was?

Jim I would look in the ISPL as that gives the details of the 2/6 turret. Some 30 years ago I was chasing Vigilant launching bins & followed many leads where I would learn they had been crushed a few weeks before! I did manage to get a cutaway box & an intact box for Clevite, but as that was of historical significance I was loath to cut it to make it like a Vigilant box. In the end I made up two launch boxes that looked fairly realistic I think. (this was on a Shorland not a Ferret though) Although I purchased the Aerolux clamps & webbing had them stitched up. I did later find the proper webbing being sold as aircraft seat belts... yes with a FV number! Be aware that the launching bins required for Ferret were a little different from the original production bin. When I last looked at the Bovington one it incorrectly had a non-Ferret bin fitted on one side & apart from the glaring error of it being a 2/3 with a 2/6 turret dropped on!

I doubt that it is relevant but AH rings a bell. It was the abbreviation for Alvis Motors Ltd in Section LV7 subsection parts for non-standardised British 'B' Vehicles in VAOS (Vocabulary of Army Ordnance Stores)

I think its one of these:

Tedly I think British Vehicles is your best bet.

Jim which EMERs are you referring to? I assume you have EMER WHEELED VEHICLES V 620-629? B Series engines are covered in EMER POWER S 520-529. S 528 gives you Inspection Standards These relate to the whole B Series range. The suffix /2 covers specifically B60 versions. PS Rolls Royce TSD Publication 702 is the Workshop Manual for ‘B’ Range Petrol Engines. These are rare.

C. it would be worth checking that your brakes aren't binding & that there is no undue play in the prop shafts & UJs

PT I have looked in VAOS Section LV6/MT8 it only mentions the "sucker unit". Looking in the RAF equivalent AP1086 Section 16E it covers the same components but just refers to the "vacuum unit" but again gives no details. Have you looked in the K9 parts list? I have this but can't find it. The only other place might be in the Technical Description in EMER WHEELED VEHICLES D 602 which I don't have.

Yes of course it does, if you are reading it & enjoying it. If you come across any points of interest that are unusual, worth passing them on & certain peculiarities of translation can be amusing.

Good stuff Wally thank you. Yes I like the points being made about the disadvantages of road travel.

Even "Naughty" sounds judgemental these days so I don't think you are even allowed to say that.

Sean I don't have the ISPL but I do have EMER WHEELED VEHICLES U 262/13 Trailer, Low Platform, RE, 2-Ton, 4-Wh, Rubery Owen, FV2508. Technical Description. Jun.1968 Is yours in the FV2500 series as well? There are 4 pages on the brakes plus a fold out diagram of the mechanical linkages.

Wally that is good when things like that tie up. Were there any particular successes or failures with any of the vehicles?

Rob, Regulations for the Equipment of the Army 1955, as amended in Equipment Regulations 1959 Pamphlet No.9. Returnable POL containers (including jerricans) Interior: Red oxide Exterior: Spraying, Olive Drab or Brushing, Light Stone