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A bridge that didn't carry vehicles would not be of great use to the Army. The system of bridge class & vehicle bridge class relationship must be compatible.

I belong to two smaller military related clubs. The Ex-Military Land Rover Association, which has a printed & online bi-monthly magazine. The Vintage & Military Vehicle Amateur Radio Society, this has a monthly on-line newsletter & a superb monthly printed magazine. I have articles due out in both, but I worry that national magazines are now super professional but seem to have lost the feel of how club magazines used to be where there was more grass roots emphasis on the automotive aspects of vehicle ownership.

Alec can you cope with fiche? I have, I think, a complete EMER POWER C 200/10 -209/10 - Generator set, 27.5 kVA, Meadows in fiche. I see you have added T&M, I need to check out those.

Never seen a souvenir catalogue like that before Wally. If only Ruddingtons were illustrated!

Without wishing to detract from the seriousness of your concerns, I think the "face" is trying to say something.

They are going to love you at Abbey Wood : ) If they don't have anything or it is too much time/effort your request may be regarded as vexatious, which has happened to me because the person on the other end couldn't grasp the points of the request. If all else fails I have found a stash of FAESP 2320-H-100 octads that I haven't catalogued, I might be persuaded to sell the set.

A cross referencing book for publications for B & E vehicles.

Ian after a previous failed search I have found it within 5 mins! It is 16 pages in all which presents problems. A proper scan is required I think rather than photos. My stupid HP scanner that is plugged into the PC will not communicate with it unless I sign into the Smart Suite via the internet which is utterly ridiculous. I have no broadband here & rely on a weak phone signal from an antenna on the roof. Currently it is taking up to 2 mins to open a simple page or it gives up & when I try to test my speed it just times out! The last week has been particularly bad, I assume it is clogged up by people playing games, tik-tok, sending selfies, social media, watching videos etc It goes through phases so at some stage it should pick up, but then the sending of pages will be tiresome. I assume you best have the whole document rather than key pages. The good news is that it is in the form of an AESP 2320-D-128-111 so it may be available on line. I think I have scanned it for someone having similar problems, I need t o see if I have archived the scan which will save the stupid & naively conceived HP Smart Suite. I did a search but cannot find this AESP from an FOI request, but there is a scan online, unfortunately my browser flags it up as a dangerous site. But as often happens documents I have scanned for people are pedalled around the internet. I have even found not just documents but articles I have written offered for sale with my copyright marking removed & replaced. Do a search & see if you can find that AESP in the meantime I will see if I have archived the scan, although I will need a window when my dreary upload speed increases!

Sorry Ian I gave up looking as I thought B Series was going to help you out. I'll start looking again.

I had forgotten I have a further publication cross-reference in AESP 0200-A-096-013 Oct 1999 This also attributes 2038-6174 to MK rather than MJ.

Mark I have two main cross-referencing sources to B & E Vehicle publications that don't always agree. REME Technical Services BAOR. March 1991 Army Technical Support Agency. August 1998 2050-0061 MK P2BMO with winch CES AC No 34220 2094-0174 RHD MK P2BMO with 3T crane CES AC No 31114 2094-5174 LHD MK P2BMO with 3T crane CES AC No 31114 2038-6174 LHD MK P2BMO armament support with 3T crane CES AC No 31363 But 1991 list ascribes this to MJ.

E-B you are correct, I should have used upper case for FORWARD. My treatment of it was somewhat scant for need for brevity. Your memory is correct for the acronym although I do have one EMER that gets it wrong by stating that the last word is "Date" rather than "Data", rather ironic as this amendment was issued by the Data Centre! EMER MANAGEMENT J 022 has nearly 100 pages of codes, there are 3 pages mainly of MJ & MK codes that I can copy if you want.

Mark if you google for Asset Codes you will find that the MOD can only quote the current structure & has no understanding that this morphed from a system that on the face of it was identical, but was constructed differently. You will also find that a military museum states that Asset Codes are a NATO identifier. The NSN (NATO Stock Number) is the NATO identifier! Asset Code is evolved from a War Office, then MOD identifier that is preferred for asset management. The museum quote from a 1966 publication but have misunderstood the front page! The simple answer is that an Asset Code is an MOD identifier of equipment of significant value typically vehicles but not exclusively. It reveals its type, role, make, model, variant etc. The more complicated answer is below from an answer I posted some while ago, although this is in itself an over simplification. In 1946 a Census Code for ‘B’ Vehicles was introduced consisting of 4-digits + 2-digits e.g. 6359/00. The reason was to adopt uniformity of asset cataloguing across all theatres that were able to use a punched card system. The first part of the code denotes the general vehicle class and the second part any subdivision e.g. 6359/10, 6359/20, 6359/30 etc. Class Codes started at 6000 with motorcycles and lighter vehicles progressing through heavier vehicles and trailers ending at 6988. Many codes were not allocated at the time to allow for additions of new types. Later Census Codes were allocated consisting of 4-digits + 2-digits + 3-digits and in 1955 these changed to 6-digits + 2-digits + 3-digits. The system gave a good deal of information about the vehicle but did not lend itself to Automated Data Processing (ADP) that was being introduced from 1964 in the form of VESPER (Vehicles, Equipment, Spares, Provision, Economics, Repair). VESPER Codes used 4-digits + 4-digits, the first 4-digits form the Establishment Code Number and the last 4-digits the make, model and mark. When lumped together as 8-digits it forms the Vehicle Code Number. In 1983 SALOME was introduced (System for Accounting & On-Line Management of Equipment) This was focussed not just on vehicles but equipment that also had codes and was known as Forward Management Codes which morphed into such things as Asset Codes and Liability codes etc in 2005 with the introduction of JAMES (Joint Asset Management & Engineering Solution). Establishment Code Number (ECN) has now changed to the Liability Number, when prefixed with a letter defining the Liability Type becomes known together as the Liability Code. When all this is prefixed with a letter denoting the Financial Management Indicator it all becomes the Liability Financial Code (LFC). The final 4 digits are the SIN (Specific Indicator Number) when added to the LFC become the MAC (Materiel Asset Code) These two 4+4 systems co-existed in databases although their structures are quite different. Applying a Sankey trailer Asset Code 2855-07** to the modern system shows that the equipment is a medium cargo truck, RHD powered by gas or chemicals!! An FOI request as to the structure of VESPER Codes reveals that the MOD does not hold such information, despite some rather old things like trailers being derived from the earlier system that are still on census. * I wrote this some years ago and by now there are probably no more VESPER coded items on census. But at the time I was surprised that the MOD had no understanding that the 4+4 code in use today is quite different from the 4+4 code originally introduced.

Nope, the only vehicle that had EMER transposed to AESP was S3 Rover in 2320-D-100 octad.

There are several more pages like this with MK variants not to mention MJ variants. It takes a bit of untangling in this abbreviated form as there are Army Coded publications, EMERs & AESPs.

Mark all the 2320-H-100 series you have agree with the detailed index 2300-A-013 Feb 1995 but 2320-H-100-701 does not appear. Are you just interested in the octad 2320-H-100 that covers all MJ variants? There are also variants: 2320-H-102 MJR 2BCO 2320-H-103 MJR 2OCO 2320-H-203 MJP

This is from the detailed index EMER WHEELED VEHICLES A 100 Jan 1983. Associated publications will need a lot more digging to find the references.

WM bear in mind that although the radio batteries were provided with a venting system, the vehicle batteries were of type that required no venting. When you come to fit normal batteries they need to be vented as hydrogen will build up within the confines of battery storage space under the passenger seat base. When I fitted replacement vehicle batteries I vented them via tubes to a T-piece I fitted to the existing venting system for the radio batteries (that exits to the left side of the body). There should be two venting holes on each side of the batteries. Venting plugs & pipes were connected to the batteries to feed the radio batteries T-piece. The unused vents on the other side of the batteries need to be plugged over so that hydrogen only leaves via the tubing vents.

Mike that is interesting the "AP" underneath given the colour I think we can rule out Admiralty Pattern. But it suggests it might be from Armstrong Patents Co Ltd in Beverley who specialised in shock absorber mechanisms. So this device might have some hydraulic role? "AP" was their recognised abbreviation used in the Vocabulary of Army Ordnance Stores Sections LV6/MT1 to LV6/MT15.

Between the three studs with waxed paper, is there a hole to accept some sort of drive shaft? I would imagine that this is some sort of fluid pump for a British Army vehicle from the 1950s. On the basis that it is gloss DBG & searching NSNs with any of the identifiers from 25+ years ago has not been NATO Codified. If there is no input for a drive shaft then some sort of fluid pressure regulator/valve or filter?

Ian I don't know if there may be something of help in this: Equipment Management Policy Directive No.552 ‘B’ Vehicle Fleet TUL(HS)/TUM(HS) Land Rover Defender (XD) Dec.1996 I just have to find it!

Mick it comes from Military Engineering, Vol VI, Water Supply & Petroleum Installations, 1956 There are no references to Patterson, although there is this apparatus mounted on a two-wheeled steerable trailer.

There is a redacted Maintenance Schedule here: https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/423603/response/1028482/attach/4/20170828 FOI2017 07816 Charlton WDTK 2320 D 128 601 sent final.pdf?cookie_passthrough=1

I fitted an in-line fuse behind the dash to feed the socket. That gave protection for any accessories I then plugged in. It also gave protection for the +ve socket itself as the insulation from the metal dash is just a piece of folded cardboard. Also it gave protection as the Lucas 2-pin plug leaves a live terminal exposed. There are some fully insulated AM plugs that fit exactly, but be very careful as the ones I bought were shorting plugs! As a protection against reversed polarity you could fit a diode in series with your +ve connection.