Duson 11 Posted April 9, 2013 Hi all, does anyone have any detail pictures or plans for the artillery aiming device that hold either a Bren or Enfield rifle on the barrel for drill purposes. How was it operated? We would like to make a replica for our 6pdr. One like this: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
monty2 12 Posted April 9, 2013 Probably a modification to safe costs on ammo. one round of .303 much cheaper as 6 pounder shell Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Duson 11 Posted April 10, 2013 Probably a modification to safe costs on ammo. one round of .303 much cheaper as 6 pounder shell Exactly thats the purpose. Just wondering if there are any more pictures. Has the devise survived in any museum? I can see the trigger was string operated but what was on the other end? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scoobie4942 10 Posted June 23 This will be probably to late for anyone but , here goes . The use of a bren/ Lee-Enfield ride as a a training aid , as you say Monty I 've seen 25 Pdr Field guns and one on a Abbot training aid in Germany in the 70s in Gutersloh. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Packhow75 10 Posted June 24 (edited) You may get somewhere if you look for details on "Sub-Calibre" mounts. This is what the mechanism is called for my 75mm Pack Howitzer and it is likely it will be the same for the 6pdr. Edit, along these lines... https://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/30025431 Edited June 24 by Packhow75 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Adrian Barrell 13 Posted June 24 Sub calibre normally refers to a smaller calibre gun fitted inside the chamber and bore of the larger piece, such as the link Tim posted which puts a 6 pdr barrel inside a 9.2 Howitzer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scoobie4942 10 Posted June 24 The only artillery piece that I haven't seen ,that doesn't have a sub calibre mount was a M107/175mm SPG 😉 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Packhow75 10 Posted June 24 39 minutes ago, Adrian Barrell said: Sub calibre normally refers to a smaller calibre gun fitted inside the chamber and bore of the larger piece, such as the link Tim posted which puts a 6 pdr barrel inside a 9.2 Howitzer. The 75mm Pack Howitzer sub-caliber is a 37mm Gun barrel mounted on top of the 75mm Pack Howitzer barrel... I will find the pics... I assumed the link I posted would be the same arrangement. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chris Hall 13 Posted August 11 What were the .50 cal Brownings mounted to for spotting? I turned one down a few years back as it was British marked as a spotting gun and I wanted a British marked ground gun. Wish I’d bought it now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tarland 10 Posted August 11 The "BAT" series of post war recoiless anti tank guns used .5 cal spotting "guns" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chris Hall 13 Posted August 11 I think they were special spotting rifles with a cartridge that matched the trajectory of the BAT. The one I was offered was a standard Browning M2 HB but was marked as LxxxAx and had a AC style backplate, no sights and a solenoid trigger. I really wish I’d bought it but I purchased a standard US GI M2HB instead. just done a search and it looks like they were the L6 and L21 ranging guns. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ferretfixer 11 Posted August 12 21 hours ago, Chris Hall said: What were the .50 cal Brownings mounted to for spotting? I turned one down a few years back as it was British marked as a spotting gun and I wanted a British marked ground gun. Wish I’d bought it now. Chieftain & Centurion Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ferretfixer 11 Posted August 12 18 hours ago, Tarland said: The "BAT" series of post war recoiless anti tank guns used .5 cal spotting "guns" These were the M8C & used a .50" SHORT round. I know, I worked on a LOT of them! Also have a Magazine for one of these. WWA sold a handful a few years back, & they had no Mags as I recall? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites