Artillery aiming device

[Duson 11]

Hi all, does anyone have any detail pictures or plans for the artillery aiming device that hold either a Bren or Enfield rifle on the barrel for drill purposes. How was it operated? We would like to make a replica for our 6pdr. One like this:

[monty2 12]

Probably a modification to safe costs on ammo. one round of .303 much cheaper as 6 pounder shell

[Duson 11]

Probably a modification to safe costs on ammo. one round of .303 much cheaper as 6 pounder shell

 

Exactly thats the purpose. Just wondering if there are any more pictures. Has the devise survived in any museum? I can see the trigger was string operated but what was on the other end?

[Scoobie4942 10]

This will be probably to late for anyone but , here goes .

The use of a bren/ Lee-Enfield ride as a a training aid , as you say Monty I 've seen 25 Pdr Field guns and one on a Abbot training aid in Germany in the 70s in Gutersloh.

[Packhow75 10]

You may get somewhere if you look for details on "Sub-Calibre" mounts. This is what the mechanism is called for my 75mm Pack Howitzer and it is likely it will be the same for the 6pdr.

 

Edit, along these lines... https://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/30025431

 

 

Edited June 24 by Packhow75

[Adrian Barrell 13]

Sub calibre normally refers to a smaller calibre gun fitted inside the chamber and bore of the larger piece, such as the link Tim posted which puts a 6 pdr barrel inside a 9.2 Howitzer.

 

[Scoobie4942 10]

The only artillery piece that I haven't seen ,that doesn't have a sub calibre mount was a M107/175mm SPG 😉

[Packhow75 10]

39 minutes ago, Adrian Barrell said:

Sub calibre normally refers to a smaller calibre gun fitted inside the chamber and bore of the larger piece, such as the link Tim posted which puts a 6 pdr barrel inside a 9.2 Howitzer.

 

The 75mm Pack Howitzer sub-caliber is a 37mm Gun barrel mounted on top of the 75mm Pack Howitzer barrel... I will find the pics... I assumed the link I posted would be the same arrangement.

[Chris Hall 13]

What were the .50 cal Brownings mounted to for spotting? I turned one down a few years back as it was British marked as a spotting gun and I wanted a British marked ground gun. Wish I’d bought it now.

[Tarland 10]

The "BAT" series of post war recoiless anti tank guns used .5 cal spotting "guns"

[Chris Hall 13]

I think they were special spotting rifles with a cartridge that matched the trajectory of the BAT. The one I was offered was a standard Browning M2 HB but was marked as LxxxAx and had a AC style backplate, no sights and a solenoid trigger. I really wish I’d bought it but I purchased a standard US GI M2HB instead.

 

just done a search and it looks like they were the L6 and L21 ranging guns.

[ferretfixer 11]

21 hours ago, Chris Hall said:

What were the .50 cal Brownings mounted to for spotting? I turned one down a few years back as it was British marked as a spotting gun and I wanted a British marked ground gun. Wish I’d bought it now.

Chieftain & Centurion

[ferretfixer 11]

18 hours ago, Tarland said:

The "BAT" series of post war recoiless anti tank guns used .5 cal spotting "guns"

These were the M8C & used a .50" SHORT round. I know, I worked on a LOT of them! Also have a Magazine for one of these.

WWA sold a handful a few years back, & they had no Mags as I recall?