Pzkpfw-e Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 Hildesheim. Via The Armour Journal https://www.facebook.com/home.php#!/TheArmorJournal Who got them from http://thatscousebastard.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter4456 Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 Awesome photos - thanks for posting them!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robin craig Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 If I were to take a stab at the location of the first photo I would say that it was not BAOR but Suffield, Aberta, Canada, the home of BATUS. Just my spidey senses but could be wrong . . . ..:nut: R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timbo Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 Great pics...Glory days! The smoke and the rauchen verboten sign in the third one gives it a great atmosphere... Robin would tend to agree with you on the first one.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m109a3uk Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 Also thought the same of the first picture! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enigma Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 So, how much of a achance did we stand if the Russians launched a full scale convential attack on Western Europe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlienFTM Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 So, how much of a chance did we stand if the Russians launched a full scale convential attack on Western Europe? Former commander of BAOR (and Arnhem veteran) General Sir John Hackett's (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Hackett_(British_Army_officer)) Third World War, August 1985 (careful: wiki seems to have got in a muddle over his first and second books, and a cursory glance at wiki fails to turn up a link to an article on the former weighty tome, of which I relate here) was read as a training manual by BAOR when it was first published in 1978. He argued that it would not be difficult or expensive to reorganise BAOR into two more-flexible Armoured Corps than the one corps that it was for most of the Cold War, and that we could stop them, I forget where but if memory serves they did not reach the Rhine. 3 Armoured Div arrived late to the party, becoming operational 1 Jan 78 and responsible for the Corps area south and west of the Harz Mountains (presumably in case 3 Shock Army tried to do what the Germans did three times and drive their tanks through the "impassible" mountains). Iirc according to Hackett, the Soviet advance went well both north of the Harz (against 1, 2 and 4 Armd Divs) and further south yet (against the Americans) but a significant bulge formed in front of Paderborn, which was of course a great morale booster for 3 Armd Div who lived there. As my good buddy Lugsy put it, "It must be down to all the biological agents in the City Club." If you don't get the meaning of this statement, don't bother trying. The City Club (the only bar in Paderborn where they had bouncers on the door to throw the drunkards in) is now long gone, taking with it the grab-a-granny nights and fights with CS and Schermulies that were regular). I do seem to recall however that it has its own Facebook group. No worries. If we didn't win, we wouldn't feel a thing thanks to the alcohol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferretfixer Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 During those Halcyon days when some of us here served through the Cold War. Major three Week Field Training Exercises were an annual event during cold November times! It was a period of great importance, as those of us Stationed in B.A.O.R with the Mighty Rine Army Units can attest! As Alien correctly states. The 'Enemy' or Fantasian Army as the term was applied. Was always stopped in the Hartz mountains. This was a natural Mountain pass where Enemy Armour had the only route to enter on the ground. A superb feature, Anti-Tank Gun, Infantry & Mortar emplacments were deployed all over the pass & managed to stop the enemy. By knocking out his Armoured & APC Borne Infantry units to bottleneck the pass up. Finished off with Hellicoptor Borne Missiles & Ground launched Missile batteries. You had to be there to see & expierience the MASSIVE amount of Chieften Main Batle tanks, APCs, & VAST amount of softskins. And all the might of the British & German & other N.A.T.O units all driving accross fields, Clogging roads & villages as they passed through. It was an amazing time back then, & an expirience which made you feel Proud & safe to see such a HUGE amount of Armour, Troops & logistic support. Our once vast Armed Forces are sadly a shadow of thier former glorious selves. & the likes of such massive field exercises will never bee seen again. The cost of such manouvers ran into Millions of pounds! This is not to detract from the Superb work our Boys & Girls are executing globally these days. In campaigns of a very different nature! I for one, feel privelidged to have served, Participated & lived through a timeframe that has helped shaped the World we live in today. However, am feel certain. that there are many in the UK who wonder what it was all for when you look around the UK & see how things are today!........:undecided: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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