Rick W Posted May 14, 2008 Share Posted May 14, 2008 OK, so its not strictly military, but it looks fairly basic for a vintage rebuild, Im sure even jack could probably cope with something this basic! http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Kinson-mini-motor-roller-with-bullnose-Morris-engine_W0QQitemZ320251218498QQihZ011QQcategoryZ2192QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeEnfield Posted May 14, 2008 Share Posted May 14, 2008 Interesting vehicle,.......would be a shame to see it go to scrappy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick W Posted May 14, 2008 Author Share Posted May 14, 2008 Half tempted myself, not sure the missus would appreciate it as a garden ornament though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great War truck Posted May 15, 2008 Share Posted May 15, 2008 That looks like fun. If i had the lawn to run it on i would go for it, but we really have ran out of room now. No, we really have. No, we are not going to buy anything else. Nothing. Tim (too) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeEnfield Posted May 15, 2008 Share Posted May 15, 2008 That looks like fun. If i had the lawn to run it on i would go for it, but we really have ran out of room now. No, we really have. No, we are not going to buy anything else. Nothing. Tim (too) When do you pick it up, then, Tim (too). :cool2::whistle: Great articles in BOTH this months Mil mags, by the way. Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great War truck Posted May 16, 2008 Share Posted May 16, 2008 Sunday looks clear. Glad you liked my Holt article. Took me a while to put that together as some of the (reliable) references contradict each other. I ended going back to the earliest doccument that i had which was a 1919 US Army report on them. The CMV article was quite fun to do. We took the trucks out to a local NT property and used that as a back drop which worked out quite well. I got shouted at by the resident, but i apologised and we took the truck off his lawn, which satisfied him a little bit. The dog bites healed in just a matter of weeks, so it was not a problem. I took lots of cracking photos myself which i will use for the "book project". Didnt want to use them until Johns article had come out, as the concern is that they would have been quite similar to his. The cover of the magazine made me laugh "Great War Trucks". I am easily pleased. Tim (too) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick W Posted May 16, 2008 Author Share Posted May 16, 2008 I have to ask Tim why the Autocar used a lot of oil. Was it bad fitting with the mechanical components or was it designed that way? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Bill Posted May 16, 2008 Share Posted May 16, 2008 The oil consumption has puzzled us for some time and caused me some concern when I realised that we were only getting sixteen miles to the pint! I was reassured when I found that the army trials in 1914 achieved even greater consumption and their lorry was new! Mind you, it still costs a lot and a drip tray is an essential piece of kit. It seems that most of the oil comes out of the breather and I believe that this is exacerbated by the twin cylinder engine. In a 'four' two pistons are going up whilst two are coming down and the net crankcase volume change is very small thus moving only a little air in and out. In a twin, the crankcase volume changes by the whole capacity of the engine every revolution so there is a tremendous gale through the breather all the time. This picks up the oil mist and spreads it over everything. Our breather had been modified, to little effect and when looking at old photographs, it can be seen that Autocar moved the breather around on the engine over the years so they obviously recognised the problem as well. We have decided to live with the problem and just count our blessings in that nothing is likely to rust! Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abn deuce Posted May 17, 2008 Share Posted May 17, 2008 If I recall werent a number of engines of that time lubricated with a manual pump by regularly pumping oil from a storage tank to the engine and dumping the excess used oil as needed ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Bill Posted May 17, 2008 Share Posted May 17, 2008 Yes, quite right. These lorries should have a tank on the dash with a hand pump so that you can give a squirt every couple of miles. Excess oil just seems to find its way out! Our lorries are both missing the tank and, although I started to make the patterns and core boxes to cast new ones, I never finished the job. Something to do when I get a bored moment! Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abn deuce Posted May 17, 2008 Share Posted May 17, 2008 I guess one other benefit of such systems was to help keep down dust on the primitive roads by oiling them ,although it must have been quite hazardous on the cobblestone surfaces when it rained for both the solid rubber tires and foot traffic . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashley Posted May 17, 2008 Share Posted May 17, 2008 This roller looks as if it is really a home made type job maybe a project for the scrap mans son for a local cricket club. The actuall body (what left of it ) appears to be cut down form a auto roller and as Kinson is an old part of Bournemouth the scrappy or son (may have ) borrowed the KINSON badge on the front from an old road sign. Naturally not implying any thing against the local residents of Kinson in any shape or form but maybe it was built for roller banger racing or ram raiding :-D:-D:cool2: Ashley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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