kagero43 Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 Hello group. I hope you can help and hope this is not a duplicate post. I am looking for the type of staff car that Rommel was in when he was wounded in an attack by Spitfires in France in July 1944. I understand it it was a "Horch" but do not know the specific type. He used a "Kabrio Kfz 21" in Africa I know, but do not know if this was the same car or type he used in France. Any help much appreciated, thank you! Harvey Low 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MatchFuzee Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 (edited) Stated as Mercedes in the first piece but Heins may not have known the difference between a Horch and a Mercedes:- The son of Bremerorde Burgomaster Heins, who was eye witness of a accident with which Field Marshall Rommel met in France,volunteered the following statement. Heins was travelling in a German Jeep(Kubelwagen)from Livarot to St.Pierre-Sur-D'Ile. In Livarot he was overtaken by two open Mercedes cars,and he noticed that a General was sitting in the first one. He followed at about 550yds distance. Their average speed was about 80 to 100 kms per hour. The General who was Field Marshall Rommel,as Heins learned later on,was sitting to the right of the driver. Another two high ranking officers were sitting in the back,whilst Rommels Adjutants were following in the second car. Source:- http://ww2talk.com/index.php?threads/who-shot-up-erwin-rommels-staff-car-that-day-in-1944.8443/ Both knew that the Allies basically now ruled the skies over that part of Normandy and Dietrich suggested that Rommel take the back roads and use a small and less conspicuous Kubelwagen. Rommel ignored the idea and left in his large open Horch staff car. Source:- https://www.rcinet.ca/en/2016/07/15/history-july-17-1944-the-canadian-who-changed-the-course-of-wwii/ Edited August 20, 2021 by MatchFuzee 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MatchFuzee Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 (edited) Looking at the photo again, is it a Mercedes or a Horch? Edited August 20, 2021 by MatchFuzee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funksammler Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 Rommel was using a Horch 830 BL when he was attacked: http://sgmcaen.free.fr/rommel.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kagero43 Posted August 20, 2021 Author Share Posted August 20, 2021 I appreciate all this knowledge and help gentlemen - thank you! Stay Safe! Harvey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul hocking Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 The photo of Rommel in a car with driver shown above, is a Mercedes-Benz 230 4 door convertible, its also grey and the driver is not his usual " Daniel" but a Luftwaffe Unterfeldwebel, so very likely a Luftwaffe vehicle just being used on the day of the photo. So it unlikely to be a Normandy photo or of the vehicle he was in when attacked, cheers PAUL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul hocking Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 Hi, Photo that match the above comment about it being an M-B 230, the close up of the drivers position is in reverse to match the Rommel photo. cheers PAUL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul hocking Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 Hi, So has anybody got the correct information as to what car Rommel was in that day ? cheers PAUL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul hocking Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 anybody ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MatchFuzee Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 4 hours ago, paul hocking said: anybody As in earlier posts and in the video, an open topped Horch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul hocking Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 Not Rommel, That is Waffen SS General Sepp Dietrich on the left of the photo and its his Horch Kfz 21 Kommandowagen that was damaged in this air attack, the fire was put out and he drove away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ltwtbarmy Posted May 14, 2023 Share Posted May 14, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, paul hocking said: Not Rommel, That is Waffen SS General Sepp Dietrich on the left of the photo and its his Horch Kfz 21 Kommandowagen that was damaged in this air attack, the fire was put out and he drove away. Indeed. The same picture, along with the car being driven afterwards, can be seen scrolling down this forum thread- https://elgrancapitan.org/foro/viewtopic.php?t=26551 Edited May 14, 2023 by ltwtbarmy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laurent fumex Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 Hello, General Rommel had a Horsch 830 that became my grand-father's car in 1946. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul hocking Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 Hi, Interesting, but was it the car that he was in when attacked by an aircraftt, as I thought it was very badly damaged in the crash at the time. Any photos ? cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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