Rick W Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 (edited) This will be a verylong restoration I feel! The priority is the restoration of the Morris son that does take priority, but the jeep will be added to whenever the bits come along! Not having oodles of cash to buy a wartime jeep I decided my best bet would be to get one that needed a complete rebuild. As luck would have it one came up for sale, that needed more than a complete rebuild- it was a bare chassis and running gear! This doesnt seem as insane as it might as it means I didnt have to strip down bodywork etc to start with a chassis, so saving a bit of time! I have the front bodywork, no tub. All running gear, diffs, drums, springs but no engine and gearbox. The vehicle was a bit of a mystery to start with as regards the chassis plate, it had a British chassis plate that had been replaced in a different place which was a bit odd. With some helpful answers from some forum members it was decoded by and large and turns out to be a jeep that was in British service. Which made it a bit different and bit better! I received the service record card back from Deepcut and it points to it having been in service with the RAOC. So the plan is to rebuild it as a bomb disposal jeep, in Brit markings of course! Edited April 16, 2010 by Jack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 A long few nights are ahead, enjoy :-D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jessie The Jeep Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 Did the instructions say..... "Some additional parts ( not included ) may be required to complete this vehicle" That's quite a project. Apart from the obvious rust, what is the overall condition of the parts like? Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick W Posted October 10, 2007 Author Share Posted October 10, 2007 The only decent bit of the body is the front grille! The rest is getting replaced. Chassis seems fairly solid all over apart from fronty tubular crossmember will need a repair, and the front bumper and bumper brackets will need to be fitted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joris Posted October 12, 2007 Share Posted October 12, 2007 Wow what a daunting project, would be very cool to undertake it! How much are you projecting to spend on this project (including the chassis bought) ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick W Posted October 12, 2007 Author Share Posted October 12, 2007 That really depends on wether or not I do things like get a fully recon engine, or decent second hand one. Do I get a new bodytub at £1,200 or try and find a halfway decent original to weld up. Including the original chassis purchase, I certainly dont expect to see much change from about £4,000, but I'm going to keep a close record on what I spend on this, so we shall see! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick W Posted October 12, 2007 Author Share Posted October 12, 2007 If anyone has any photos of RAOC jeeps they can post up they will be much appreciated! ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joris Posted October 13, 2007 Share Posted October 13, 2007 That really depends on wether or not I do things like get a fully recon engine, or decent second hand one. Do I get a new bodytub at £1,200 or try and find a halfway decent original to weld up. Including the original chassis purchase, I certainly dont expect to see much change from about £4,000, but I'm going to keep a close record on what I spend on this, so we shall see! That's not a lot of money for a WWII jeep! What might be a money saver, make a trip to mainland europe and get parts here. With the pound still at 1,40 euro parts are relatively cheap here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick W Posted October 13, 2007 Author Share Posted October 13, 2007 Recommend anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joris Posted October 14, 2007 Share Posted October 14, 2007 In the netherlands: http://www.Wildenbergparts.com http://www.Dvandam.nl http://www.bramvanbuuren-jeeps.nl/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landyhump Posted October 14, 2007 Share Posted October 14, 2007 Good luck with the rebuild i will watch with interest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcspool Posted October 15, 2007 Share Posted October 15, 2007 Recommend anyone? Apart from those mentioned by Joris, try http://www.jeeparts.nl/ Joop Staman bought the remaining stock of Jeeps parts off the French government, so there should be enough to rebuild your jeep several times over! Hanno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcspool Posted October 15, 2007 Share Posted October 15, 2007 get one that needed a complete rebuild.... This doesnt seem as insane as it might as it means I didnt have to strip down bodywork etc to start with a chassis, so saving a bit of time! I am interested to hear how your "jeep from the parts bin" restoration approach turns out. I think you will get over the UKP 4000 mark. But it might very well turn out to be a beter approach than to buy a restored and running jeep, which often turns out in need of having things rectified and or re-restored to get it up to your personal standards and taste. Please keep us posted on your progress! Hanno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashley Posted October 15, 2007 Share Posted October 15, 2007 Hi Rick, as you are needing a lot of parts would it not be easier if possible to try and get the items Stateside and pay for part of a container ?? i am told the parts are cheaper but shipping is the killer. Downside is waiting for the the `bulk` purchase to arrive :-( Unless you just purchase all major parts from the U.S. and get smaller items locally/European so`s to speak. Ashley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick W Posted October 16, 2007 Author Share Posted October 16, 2007 Thanks guys, I will do a price comparison of getting parts from the UK, Europe and US and see how they compare. Engine and gearbox I intend to find a reasonable 2nd hand ones and rebuild. Dallas Dig out might prove to be useful. I think thats the end of the month, anyone got a date on that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woa2 Posted October 16, 2007 Share Posted October 16, 2007 Thanks guys, I will do a price comparison of getting parts from the UK, Europe and US and see how they compare. Engine and gearbox I intend to find a reasonable 2nd hand ones and rebuild. Dallas Dig out might prove to be useful. I think thats the end of the month, anyone got a date on that? This Sunday 21st Oct. I will be there - look for a stall with a Green Focus estate and say 'Hello'. Robert Davey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joris Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 as you are needing a lot of parts would it not be easier if possible to try and get the items Stateside and pay for part of a container ?? i am told the parts are cheaper but shipping is the killer. Or try and get a few other lads to order stuff to and devide the shipping. I'm sure there are more people on HMVF interested in cheap spare parts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick W Posted December 5, 2007 Author Share Posted December 5, 2007 Quick update on what I have gathered for the jeep and how much for, so far a mixture of GPW and Willys, but all period except gearbox, which is the later type. Chassis, running gear, springs front body panels.....£900 Ford scripted tub, including dash, dials, windscreen and heater!....£350 1942 MB engine including water pump, head, transfer, carb, manifolds etc....£750 Gearbox, later post war type........£75 MB Rad, seat,tool box lid, glove box, various small bits, spare screen frame...£400 Total spent so far...£2475. The only major components I am missing at the moment are wheels to make the chassis rollable. Will obvously rebuild engine , box and trans so will purchase the various rebuild bits for those, fuel tank, more seats and wiring loom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeEnfield Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 At least after doing the rebuild, YOU'LL know its right,..............and at a fraction of the price one would pay, it seems for an up and running one. NICE ONE, Mate......... :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick W Posted December 5, 2007 Author Share Posted December 5, 2007 I think the expense will come in the bits and bobs. The advantage here is I can spread the cost as I gather parts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeEnfield Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 I think the expense will come in the bits and bobs. The advantage here is I can spread the cost as I gather parts. Quite probably, :roll:...........its nearly always the smaller lumps, etc that are either scarce, (read expensive, :whistle:) or unobtainable, when you want them.................. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowtracdave Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 Until you have bought them after which loads will turn up for half the price :dunno: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeEnfield Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 Until you have bought them after which loads will turn up for half the price :dunno: :whistle: Aye, that sounds about right,............... :roll: :roll: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick W Posted December 13, 2007 Author Share Posted December 13, 2007 (edited) Transfer box, before cleaning up and after cleaning, rust treating, finished with a good coat of red oxide. Edited April 16, 2010 by Jack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeEnfield Posted December 14, 2007 Share Posted December 14, 2007 Transfer box, before cleaning up and after cleaning, rust treating, finished with a good coat of red oxide. http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o72/rik242_2006/restoblog043-1.jpg[/img] http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o72/rik242_2006/restoblog048.jpg[/img] WAY, way TOoooooooooo Clean, Rick. :-D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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