Longshaor Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 Hi Everyone, I'm still pulling together all the little bits for my Series III 109 FFR (ex-10 Para) and I've got a couple of (probably) very basic questions. First, did Rover supply Series IIIs to the Army with a bottle jack or some other type of jack? If it was a bottle jack, does anyone have basic dimensions? Where was it stored? On a somewhat unrelated note, where would I go to find out how to wire up the antennae on my FFR? Thanks in advance, Atherton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fesm_ndt Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 I think series III's had screw jacks. Some had boxes under the bonnet and the jack handle clipped under the bonnet. With Antennas are you talking wing mounted or rear side mounted? Someone will have piccies of the exact positioning wiring etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fv1609 Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 Screw jack http://www.hmvf.co.uk/pdf/AC33506.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruxy Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 (edited) Ernest Lake , 1 ton , screw , multiple-stage ===================================== http://www.mgaroadster.co.uk/Ern_Lake_Jacks.htm Scrol down , described incorrectly as 4 Ton , it is a 1 ton. Can be with a two piece handle + metal cranked for winding. Most common MOD supplied is a single piece (as fitted under-bonnet securings on Lightweight) , this had a timber cranking handle , they must have been used as camp fire-wood - you never received one. They are readily available under a Rover No. or ash reproduction on eBay (more expensive). Not listed as far as I am able to establish on Solihull , standard accessories , so Ordnance Depot equipped . MOD must have done direct bulk purchase with Lake (that ISTR. produced in main jacks for ford , factory - Brockhouse Harvey Frost , Bishop Stortford (now the norm - housing estate). Ord. dept. branded the actual military vehicle registration number on the jack - so you knew if yours was nicked LoL Edited March 6, 2015 by ruxy amd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longshaor Posted March 7, 2015 Author Share Posted March 7, 2015 Thanks for all the information! Especially the link to the Ernest Lake site, that's going to be very useful. fesm_ntd: I need the wiring information for BOTH the wing boxes and the side masts. I have antennae installed, however there's no wiring for them. Thanks again, Atherton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruxy Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 Hi Everyone, I'm still pulling together all the little bits for my Series III 109 FFR (ex-10 Para) and I've got a couple of (probably) very basic questions. First, did Rover supply Series IIIs to the Army with a bottle jack or some other type of jack? If it was a bottle jack, does anyone have basic dimensions? Where was it stored? On a somewhat unrelated note, where would I go to find out how to wire up the antennae on my FFR? Thanks in advance, Atherton ============================ It all depends on the age of your 109" for front wing antenna Early S3 with Larkspur ATU box Early S3 with cable stowage box (additional surface mount) on front wing for Clansman TUAAM Late S3 with small lid on top of wing with purpose stowage (underside) - later Solihull installed front wings intended for Clansman ---- IIRC 109" FFR early would have Larkspur cables as standard & stowage point on inner wing , Clansman - involves the modifications. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longshaor Posted March 8, 2015 Author Share Posted March 8, 2015 Is this what you mean by cable storage box? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruxy Posted March 8, 2015 Share Posted March 8, 2015 No - they are Clansman TUAAM boxes , the cable box is about 4" x 4" x 2.1/2" high Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ltwtbarmy Posted March 8, 2015 Share Posted March 8, 2015 (edited) No - they are Clansman TUAAM boxes , the cable box is about 4" x 4" x 2.1/2" high ....and sits on the wing just behind the TUAAM box. This is what the cable box looks like: Edited March 8, 2015 by ltwtbarmy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruxy Posted March 8, 2015 Share Posted March 8, 2015 (edited) That is the one , odd times you do see one that is half the thickness but seems to me too small, I have one of these and it has a FV No. so the correct one must ? There is no Rover No. ---------------- Not quite BUT sometimes used Edited March 8, 2015 by ruxy add pic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruxy Posted March 8, 2015 Share Posted March 8, 2015 This is the most common jack handle style , standard on Lightweight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruxy Posted March 8, 2015 Share Posted March 8, 2015 From about 1979 , FFR 109" & Lightweight had no need for the "adaptable box" as stowage standard on Clansman specific wings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirhc Posted March 8, 2015 Share Posted March 8, 2015 This is the most common jack handle style , standard on Lightweight Is that not where the starting handle goes? Handle through the hole? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruxy Posted March 8, 2015 Share Posted March 8, 2015 Yes , on a Lightweight the stowage clamping facility is for both , the starting handle (grip) goes through the big red grommet that you can see to the right of the jack handle eye. Been trying to find a photograph of the proper timber handle , should have one somewhere but can't find it to take another picture. Strange , Solihull gave you a toolbox to stow the jack (Lightweight early or late) BUT no where to stow the actual timber handle LoL I know the front of a 101" has a longer starting handle (handy for Lightweight when NATO pintle bolted to front bumper) , 101" jacking - can't recall ,, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longshaor Posted March 11, 2015 Author Share Posted March 11, 2015 OK, mine doesn't have these. About 6 to 9-inches behind the TUAAM box there is a hole through each wing about 2-inches in diameter. It's covered by a hinged plate and secured at the front end with a single screw. Inside the hole is a cable with an 'L' shaped boot and pin connector. I know the vehicle served until 1993, so is this a later modification or something else entirely? If it's light enough when I get home I'll take some photos. ....and sits on the wing just behind the TUAAM box. This is what the cable box looks like: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruxy Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Photograph(s) needed , 2" hole sounds about correct for the later FFR Clansman specific wings , it had a weather-seal grommet. Could have lost the original lid/cover or local modification to early wing near copy to the later design ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longshaor Posted March 11, 2015 Author Share Posted March 11, 2015 Photos of the wings below. Each wing has a little compartment under that flap with two wires in it, one is an 'L' shaped plug with a coaxial pin and the other an 'L' shaped plug with 7 pins. There were also the broken remains of what looked like plastic clips for the wires inside the compartments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruxy Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 Genuine Solihull manufactured wing specific for Clansman , you have a missing securing - these are difficult to obtain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longshaor Posted March 15, 2015 Author Share Posted March 15, 2015 (edited) Thanks, ruxy! OK, I think I have this now. Both cables come out of the hole through the raised channel in the cover, through the opening in the side of the TUAAM box (which is missing the rubber weather seal), plug into the TUAAM which then plugs into the antenna jack in the top of the TUAAM box. Do I have that right? Edited March 15, 2015 by Longshaor spelling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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