Dave Jenner Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 (edited) I don't know if any of you might have seen and read this post. It would seem that it is possible that a G19 as it was designated, could be currently rotting away in a barn in Canada. I first saw the post almost a year ago and tried to get a dialogue going with the person Leah, but it dried up when I was asking about providing more details and a photograph. http://www.fire-engine-photos.com/picture/number2343.asp?c=46701 As you will see from reading the thread, the current owner is likely to get shot of it at any time. I have no idea if it is what the thread suggests, possibly the Canadian variant of the Alvis Salamander of which I believe only about 15 or so were ever built. If it were somewhere here in the UK I'm sure it would have been seen by now, quite how this may be accommodated in whats being suggested is a remote part of Canada I really have not a clue! Any idea's gentlemen? Regards Dave Edited February 10, 2015 by Dave Jenner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean N Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 Dave, you are referring to the posts from May 2014, about 2/3 way down the page, I presume. The owner, Leah, found this forum at around the same time: http://hmvf.co.uk/forumvb/showthread.php?44556-1958-Alvis&highlight=salamander Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Jenner Posted February 10, 2015 Author Share Posted February 10, 2015 Dave, you are referring to the posts from May 2014, about 2/3 way down the page, I presume. The owner, Leah, found this forum at around the same time: http://hmvf.co.uk/forumvb/showthread.php?44556-1958-Alvis&highlight=salamander Thanks Sean, I was not aware that had been posted. I am more than a little surprised to be reading that it's a runner! It's sad to think what might become of it. It's quite probably the very last of it's kind, being the Canadian variant that was a fair bit different to the one built by Pyrene for the RAF. If Leah made a little bit more of an effort he might get somewhere! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean N Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 I suspect Leah is a she, or at least it's normally a girl's name. If I remember correctly there were some photos of it published at the time, whether here, in the Canadian classified ad, or elsewhere I can't recall. I have in mind that it was basically complete but quite tatty. I would imagine by now it will have been either cut up or will still be sitting there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robin craig Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 Good day, I have tried to keep tabs on this and other Stalwart like variants but these darn civvies just wont comply and communicate! What I am trying to get across is while we may all be as enthusiastic and wanting to preserve these machines the current owners have their own agenda and we may not be part of it, and frankly it is their perrogative to do just that. No matter how rare something is does not make it have a high monetary value which usually is a real tick off to the current owners and they have a hissy fit when you tell them that, no matter how gently. There was a Stolly tour beast sold recently and I was in touch with the seller but it all fizzled out. Trust me I have been sickeningly sweet and soft and non pressuring and trying to be helpful etc but that is real life. Robin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold_War_Collection Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 Good day, I have tried to keep tabs on this and other Stalwart like variants but these darn civvies just wont comply and communicate! What I am trying to get across is while we may all be as enthusiastic and wanting to preserve these machines the current owners have their own agenda and we may not be part of it, and frankly it is their perrogative to do just that. No matter how rare something is does not make it have a high monetary value which usually is a real tick off to the current owners and they have a hissy fit when you tell them that, no matter how gently. There was a Stolly tour beast sold recently and I was in touch with the seller but it all fizzled out. Trust me I have been sickeningly sweet and soft and non pressuring and trying to be helpful etc but that is real life. Robin Agreeed Robin, particularly in Canada, where everyone seems to think they are sitting on a vehicular gold mine, but when they want to buy....well, its the opposite end of the stick. I do wish people would at least do some basic pricing research on what they a) want to sell b) want to buy. Its quite tiring to see a truck in a field thats been sitting for 40 years, rotted, up for sale but the asking is as much as a restored one (happened last week M 1009....15,000.00$ FIRM:shocked: What was the final word on thst poor old Stolly "boat" down in Southern Ontario? I know its in rough, and modified shape, but running gear spares are awlyes on the shopping list for us. Salamander is interesting for sure, I think there is one over at Science and Tech in the Store house. On that note, drop me a line on Pauls or my e-mail, I have an idea thats come to mind? cheers Nick CWC Canada Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robin craig Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Dear Nick and others, I am in touch with the Southern Ontario owner of the round the Isle of Wight modified machine, his asking price is outside what in reality it will fetch. The perceived and actual once again separated by a large margin. I saw some emails about the museum issue and did reply. Robin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashcollection Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Dear Nick and others, I am in touch with the Southern Ontario owner of the round the Isle of Wight modified machine, his asking price is outside what in reality it will fetch. The perceived and actual once again separated by a large margin. I saw some emails about the museum issue and did reply. Robin Hi You Salamander people might like to know these two are still about,the yellow one with me and the red one up north with its engine out. neither are currently for sale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Jenner Posted February 13, 2015 Author Share Posted February 13, 2015 Leah the owner of the vehicle was in touch through email with me yesterday and sent through these couple of pics. She has no interest in the vehicle in any way except wanting to get shot of it from her barn by selling it either as a whole, or bit by bit. Her emails are rather short, not very sweet and to the point! She apparently has a buyer for the engine, which I think will be a B81, and the gearbox. The gearbox could be a fully automatic one as the RCAF did not like the semi auto pre select box that came with the truck and had them upgraded. I cannot recall the other differences of the Canadian spec G19, there were a few and I think they are mentioned in Bill Munro's Alvis Saracen Family book. There are few remaining Mk.6 versions in the UK, the Museum of RAF Fire Fighting having, I believe, the last remaining running version and the first one off the production line. But this Canadian version is probably quite unique and probably the last of it's kind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Jenner Posted February 13, 2015 Author Share Posted February 13, 2015 Hi You Salamander people might like to know these two are still about,the yellow one with me and the red one up north with its engine out.[ATTACH=CONFIG]101578[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]101579[/ATTACH] neither are currently for sale Nice to see the ex Headcorn one still about. Is she still a runner? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashcollection Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 Nice to see the ex Headcorn one still about. Is she still a runner? Not running yet, but i don't see any reason why we won't have her going in the summer, everything seems present and correct, so with servicing of the fuel and ignition system I think she should go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robin craig Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 I know this is a bit of a necropost but the vehicle did sell and the new owner was in contact but I have lost touch but am trying to reconnect. I just found a picture of one of the vehicles when in service. The picture is from a series done for a new marking scheme. Likely taken at Rockliffe in Ottawa Ontario Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phliponeau Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 Hi guys, here in France I am working on a book about vintage toys. I would like very much to include two photos of your blog : the yellow Alvis and the black and white photo "when in servie". Can anyone of you give me permission to use these two photos ? Many thanks in advance for your reply Best regards Pierre pierre.phliponeau@gmail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Listerj123 Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 On 2/12/2015 at 4:48 PM, Ashcollection said: Hi You Salamander people might like to know these two are still about,the yellow one with me and the red one up north with its engine out. neither are currently for sale where about's up north is the red one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashcollection Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 17 hours ago, Listerj123 said: where about's up north is the red one its not up North now, check out fleabay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitsch and Sink Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 morning. so the red one has gone to the norfolk tank museum, whats the situation with the yellow one please? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashcollection Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 not quite, the red one is privately owned but at the Norfolk tank museum. its, not theirs, the yellow one is still in the Ashcollection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XS650 Posted January 1, 2023 Share Posted January 1, 2023 (edited) A possibly Canadian Alvis Salamander featuring in a current TV series ' Tales from the Loop' https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1370805-Alvis-Salamander-Crash-Tender-1958.html Edited January 1, 2023 by XS650 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Ellis Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 (edited) Just been reading this article, where on page 70 he advised that Canada swapped the B81 for a V8 "later changed for a V8 Ford engine and Allison transmission"http://www.lishfd.org/Information files/THE MALTESE CROSS_PDF.pdf Edited August 31, 2023 by Mark Ellis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Ellis Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 @robin craig Just seen your post on Mapleleafup about the G19 http://www.mapleleafup.net/forums/showpost.php?p=259309&postcount=10 Did you ever manager to reconnect with the new owner? Some photos would be appreciated. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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