Rick W Posted May 10, 2007 Share Posted May 10, 2007 I was just ambling through the parts list for the C8/AT (Mark3) when I came across the following parts. :cofee: BODY DB.11798 Assembly of mudwing bolt and clamp plate for bren gun carrier. DB.6013 Clip -For bren gun tripod DB 10938 Staple for bren gun tripod strap (These are on the abridged list page 2) Can anyone enlighten me on these. It would suggest to me that either there may have been a facility to mount the bren so it can be used out of the observation ring, which seems a little unlikely, though not impossible, or that there was provision made for a tripod mounted bren in the rear. If no one knows, then how is the best way to find out? Ive seen the Motley mount for AA use, but Ive not come across this. :? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeEnfield Posted May 10, 2007 Share Posted May 10, 2007 Thats a poser, Rick;...............I'll have to have a closer look through my parts list for MW,.............maybe's a common, ( or NOT, come to that, :whistle:) fixture, that was removed when these old girls were de-mobed. Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Farrant Posted May 10, 2007 Share Posted May 10, 2007 Rick, I think you will find that a C8/AT has an open front cab, no screens and flat section front mudguards, usually 3 persons sat across the front, so room to operate a gun, not so in the case of a C8/GS though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morris c8 fat Posted May 10, 2007 Share Posted May 10, 2007 :-D What idiot sent you that list? I know I will regret this but its just I have spent too much this month then this comes up on E-Bay Item130110902741 I rememberd you were after one :-D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick W Posted May 10, 2007 Author Share Posted May 10, 2007 Thanks , Ive already clocked the ebay one. The parts list comes from another fellow owner! Photocopied from the original!! Kewelde, Ive not come across this variant before, I dont see how the cab could accomodate 3 people, was the mount, assuming it was one, front cab mounted? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Farrant Posted May 10, 2007 Share Posted May 10, 2007 Kewelde, Ive not come across this variant before, I dont see how the cab could accomodate 3 people, was the mount, assuming it was one, front cab mounted? Rick, From the parts book description, mentioning mud wing clamp, I assumed it to be on the front, could be wrong, as I have never seen a front mount on a C8. The cab on a C8/AT was open, no doors or screen, the tilt over the rear body continuing over the cab like a pram hood. There was another seat to the right of the driver. Unfortunately, I have changed computors and a lot of my pics are on the other one, but I will see if I can find a photo for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick W Posted May 10, 2007 Author Share Posted May 10, 2007 I have never come across a front mounting clamp either. Needs a bit of looking into. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Farrant Posted May 10, 2007 Share Posted May 10, 2007 Rick, Attached is a photo from another forum, of a C8/AT. I think the parts you refered to are possibly retainers for stowing the gun and/or tripod. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morrisc8gs Posted May 11, 2007 Share Posted May 11, 2007 Hi Rick, There's a photo in Wheels and Tracks (No. 30 p28) of an AA gunner on the front mudguard of a C8/AT mkII. dated 1941. Don't know how he's staying on - but you can make out some sort of bracket/seat etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick W Posted May 11, 2007 Author Share Posted May 11, 2007 I have yet to come across Wheels and Tracks. Now a couple of "anorak type" questions spring to mind. The parts list is dated 1944 for the Mark 3. The variant that the photo shows is one I havent come across before, but I'll double check CMV mag. I thought the Mark 3 was the type built in 1944. So was it just the variant in the photo that was equipped with this feature? :rtfm: Also the parts list title is C8/AT, does that then denote Anti Tank? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Farrant Posted May 11, 2007 Share Posted May 11, 2007 So was it just the variant in the photo that was equipped with this feature? :rtfm: Also the parts list title is C8/AT, does that then denote Anti Tank? Rick, The truck in the photo is a C8/AT, anti-tank, because that was the role of the 17 pounder that it towed, as in photo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morris c8 fat Posted May 12, 2007 Share Posted May 12, 2007 :whistle: just to sticka point in the C8 A/T was built as a portee for the 2pdr it was then converted to tow the 17 pdr in the air-portable role there was a good link on maple leaf up about this and a C8FAT No 5 body air portable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morris c8 fat Posted May 12, 2007 Share Posted May 12, 2007 This is the air portable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeEnfield Posted May 12, 2007 Share Posted May 12, 2007 I kinda like the look of these trucks,.................. :-D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morris c8 fat Posted May 13, 2007 Share Posted May 13, 2007 how about a Kubel version then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeEnfield Posted May 13, 2007 Share Posted May 13, 2007 how about a Kubel version then :-) Its quite amazing how many captured allied vehicles, the germans altered/part re-bodied, for their own purpose's......................there is a (german) book about, British Trucks in Wehrmacht Service,..........with some brilliany pics, of such conversions. If you have a look in Wheels and Tracks no 29 p28 through to 39, whilst they contain the history of morris, (and austin) quads, also show some post war body conversions. All the best, Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick W Posted May 13, 2007 Author Share Posted May 13, 2007 It would be different to convert a Brit truck into one that was used by other forces, I'm not sure what reaction you would get from other people though. But it was a thought that crossed my mind when starting on mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morris c8 fat Posted May 14, 2007 Share Posted May 14, 2007 :-D We could start a new thread with this now for somthing compleatly different Bedford mw anti tank !!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeEnfield Posted May 14, 2007 Share Posted May 14, 2007 :-D We could start a new thread with this now for somthing compleatly different Bedford mw anti tank !!!!! :-D... blimey,...where did you find that GREAT pic,............... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morris c8 fat Posted May 14, 2007 Share Posted May 14, 2007 :-D maple leaf up a great place to go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick W Posted May 14, 2007 Author Share Posted May 14, 2007 They found some good pics on there, we should find ours. Get yer books and scanners out! ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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