Starfire Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 Hi All, Our museum has a Bedford QL tanker, which has been restored from a wreck, but it is missing the pump motor, which we believe should be a 2 cylinder horizontally opposed petrol engine, and the 4 large square funnels that should be mounted under the tank. Does anyone have any details of what these parts should look like and any possible leads as to where we may be able to source them from? Thanks, Terry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willyslancs Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 a friends QL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REME 245 Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 The Stationary Engine Forum will be able to advise you. The engines are standard Units. The pumps will be harder to find. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Farrant Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 Hi All, Our museum has a Bedford QL tanker, which has been restored from a wreck, but it is missing the pump motor, which we believe should be a 2 cylinder horizontally opposed petrol engine, Not sure about a flat twin engine, but early ones with Butterfield tanks had a 3hp Bradford engine, a horizontal single if I recall. Then the later QL refueller with Zwicky equipment had a Stuart Turner P5XC engine driving two fuel pumps via a worm reduction box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starfire Posted October 1, 2014 Author Share Posted October 1, 2014 Thanks Richard, Maybe it should be the horizontal single then. Do you happen to have any documentation or pictures? Cheers, Terry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Farrant Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 Thanks Richard, Maybe it should be the horizontal single then. Do you happen to have any documentation or pictures? Cheers, Terry Only info is from odd references here and there. Another thought, some were driven off the vehicle PTO. Take a look at the transfer box and see if it has a PTO output on it. The PTO output was only fitted to vehicles requiring it, so this might prove a point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starfire Posted October 2, 2014 Author Share Posted October 2, 2014 From what I understand (the member that owns this vehicle doesn't frequent forums much, so I'm asking on his behalf), there are 4 pump variants, the two earlier ones being petrol driven and prone to catching fire and the two later being driven via the PTO. I know for sure that ours is not fitted with a PTO pump and should have a petrol engine back there. There are also 2 round hose spools fitted in the back. As for the funnels, apparently he had 2 of them and planned to manufacture 2 copies, but they were either thrown away by accident, or stolen from the workshop area many years ago. I'll get some photos over the weekend of what we have and hopefully someone can identify what we need. Cheers, Terry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAFMT Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 I'll take a look at the manuals when I get a free moment. Otherwise, shoot me a message to remind if I don't get back to you - mind like a sieve!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starfire Posted October 20, 2014 Author Share Posted October 20, 2014 Ok, as far as we can tell, it should be the Bradford. Here is the only picture we've been able to find of one: We moved the Bedford away from the wall over the weekend, to get some photos of the rear compartment: So, can anyone identify what engine should be in there, and does anyone know where we can get one? We also need the funnels and the hose nozzles. Cheers, Terry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starfire Posted October 21, 2014 Author Share Posted October 21, 2014 Another interesting thing that most people won't be aware of, is that the tank is actually divided internally, with the front 2 feet or so partitioned off from the rest of it and used to transport engine oil for the planes. It is pumped in and out via the hand pump mounted on top of the tank, and you can make out the weld line from the outside of the tank. The owner of this vehicle, and (apparently) the farmer that had been using it as a water tanker for many years were not aware of this, until an ex-serviceman visited the museum and asked if there was still any oil in the tank; inspection revealed that it was, and still is, about half full of a thick tar-like substance Due to the fact that the tank was made out of mild steel, it did not fare well transporting water and rusted quite significantly. It has been cosmetically restored but will never transport fuel again. Cheers, Terry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caddy Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 There may be a company in the midlands that might be able to help: Meetens Industrial Engines. They've helped me with engines such as JAP model 3's and various lister engines. Might be worth a call. (Of course they might not be able to help) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAFMT Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 I said I'll need reminding! It would be the Stuart-Turner P5XC that was used in this type I can dig out AP4268A as referred to in the entry, if you think it would help. Bryan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starfire Posted October 25, 2014 Author Share Posted October 25, 2014 (edited) Bryan, Yes please! The more data, the better Thanks, Terry Edited October 23, 2015 by Starfire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starfire Posted October 23, 2015 Author Share Posted October 23, 2015 I'm still trying to track down info on the funnels especially, and more information/manuals for the vehicle would be great. Please let me know if you can help out. Cheers, Terry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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