Carruthers Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 Carrier parts are mostly traded and therefore i wondered if anyone could assist which an actual price for UC double bogie complete with T16 wheels and solid idler wheel, and also T16 wheels individually. The wheels I have are in super condition with little used tyres. any help much appreciated Simon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REME 245 Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 E-bay is probably the best place to achieve a good price. I assume this Bogie Unit is from a T16 as mentioning Universal Carrier in the same description could confuse some buyers. It is either T16 or Universal Carrier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Barrell Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 T16 was a universal carrier. The correct nomenclature is Carrier, Universal, T16. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carruthers Posted August 10, 2014 Author Share Posted August 10, 2014 T16 was a universal carrier. The correct nomenclature is Carrier, Universal, T16. Yeah Adrian I thought it was the same. Also might have another 6 pdr ammo box for you... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddy8men Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 £350 for the suspension unit and £75 a piece for the wheels Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Pearson Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 I have some spare double bogeys for sale 400 ea and include 2 wheels on each unit. Mark... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carruthers Posted August 10, 2014 Author Share Posted August 10, 2014 £350 for the suspension unit and £75 a piece for the wheels Thanks very much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddy8men Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 no worries Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carruthers Posted August 10, 2014 Author Share Posted August 10, 2014 (edited) no worries I've got several spare sets and wheels and so they're surplus/ not correct for my mk 2. At least I have an indication of their value and can think about selling them against other bits I need... Simon Edited August 11, 2014 by Carruthers Spelling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REME 245 Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 T16 was a universal carrier. The correct nomenclature is Carrier, Universal, T16. Yes but there are some differences in parts and real Universal Carriers particularly British manufactured ones, price wise, are a lot more desirable than T16's which only saw service with Canadians in NW Europe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Barrell Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 Indeed, that is true. I was being a little flippant. The T16 parts list has a listing of interchangeable parts, I wonder if the bogie assembly would fit British or Canadian universals? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lauren Child Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 I'm surprised - I would have thought the T16 would be more desirable on account of it having more leg room for the driver and tiller steering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Barrell Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 Practicality and desirability seldom go together. Look at the popularity of tanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddy8men Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 as far as I can remember the t16 units are identical to carrier although they have inner and outer springs in both front and rear where as the carrier has them in the front only, the roller wheel is also a solid casting and carrier has a rubber moulding over the steel inner part, I think there is also a slightly thicker spacer between the wheel and swing arm but that is a little vague so I can't say for certain. rick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Barrell Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 So they are identical apart from several areas where they are different............ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowfat Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 sounds like women... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Barrell Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 If only they came with a manual......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 1 pair of the T16 suspension units (the rear I think) only has one set of springs (no inner ones). Some late Mk1 and Canadian MK 2 have the same solid top return roller with not rubber. the main assemblies are the same , pin size etc. One of the main problems with owning a T16 is it's just about 5 tons comparierd with 4 tons for a Mk1 or 2 . You can just get away with a mk1 or 2 on some 7.5 ton beaver tail trucks for transport, and then there is the limited use during the war. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddy8men Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 I miss my t16 I spent hundreds of hours restoring it then had to sell it to fund the Cromwell, never even got to drive it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enigma Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 How come you never drove it after you restored it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmphibAndy Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 (edited) I like to think of the rarer T16 as the final development of the earlier universal, and there is no doubt that the tiller/cletrac style differential steering is far superior to the bend the track and diff braking on the earlier mass produced Carriers. Interesting that they were the Carriers that the British Army elected to keep after 45 Not that I am biased or anything. Anyway, I looking for a regulator for this if anyone has a nice NOS, wish I had bought more of dear Chris Wilkinson whilst I could All help much appreciated as the blighter has stopped charging this is the regulator incase someone has one and didn't know what it was for Edited August 13, 2014 by AmphibAndy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddy8men Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Andrew you are right the t16 is the final development of the universal but you just can't beat the original version for fun, the t16 is too long to wiz about in, although it is a superior vehicle in practical terms and also amphibious but does suffer from the rear end pitching down when climbing a slope (which results in track slipping), a problem they never resolved even though a simple fix like turning the rear suspension units around would have solved it. (bit of t16 trivia) enigma I never got to drive it as I just didn't have the time or money to get the engine running even though everything else was in place, I just had to get some cash in the bank pronto, funnily enough I sold it only 8 hours after it went on milweb and back to the same guy I had bought it off a year earlier rick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enigma Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 enigma I never got to drive it as I just didn't have the time or money to get the engine running even though everything else was in place, I just had to get some cash in the bank pronto, funnily enough I sold it only 8 hours after it went on milweb and back to the same guy I had bought it off a year earlier rick Ah, that's understandable... Especially considering the tank you were restoring. I visited you at W@P 2 years ago and spoke briefly with you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddy8men Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 lol it's not a game for those with modest incomes and young families Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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