Pzkpfw-e Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 Not sure if it's of use to anyone, but makes an interesting read! Published in 1942, covers MkI-IV. Talk about maintainance intensive, 12-14 things to do daily, 23-4 to do weekly/every 250 miles, 22 every month/500 miles, 7 every 1,000 miles and 2 every 2,000 miles (Any of them last that long?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fv1609 Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 Is there any reference in it to the external UV light? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maurice Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 I would be interested in it if it is for sale . About the light , I have got a Cromwell workshop manual , and explains the lights , I can scan it and e mail it . Maurice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fv1609 Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 I would be interested in it if it is for sale .About the light , I have got a Cromwell workshop manual , and explains the lights , I can scan it and e mail it . Maurice Maurice that would be super thank you. I have a particular interest early use of UV, IR etc. I'll PM you my email. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddy8men Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 I have the same book and it does make for an interesting read. Maurice are you getting a Churchill :cool2: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maurice Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 I want to rescue one , but Don`t know yet , it is complete , but in a difficult area , wished I had a camera with me when I discovered it , it is half sunk in a bog , I think we need one of these Russian recovery teams . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Barrell Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 it is half sunk in a bog Best place for it............:laugh: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddy8men Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Maurice don't listen to Adrian he only takes on the easy restorations ! Getting a Churchill out of a bog isn't impossible with a bit of thought. I have had a good long think about how to recover the Churchill avre's from otterburn range which Is also a boggy area. my plan was to go up during a long summer dry spell to prep the tank, this would involve lifting it on jacks and placing large c section channel under the suspension/tracks to act as skis, then leave the tank until the ground is frozen hard then winch it off like a large sled, the advantage being the ground will not be badly damaged during the recovery and the tractive effort required will be much less than if you attempted to drag it like a large plough. alternatively a 20+ ton excavator will move a tank around like a toy car but the ground conditions will limit it's use. shame it's not in the uk as I have all the recovery assets in place, including a tracked recovery vehicle but to ship it all to Holland just wouldn't make sense financially. anyway good luck with it and if you need any help let me know. a pic or two would also be nice :cool2:. rick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RattlesnakeBob Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 ......... my plan was to go up during a long summer dry spell to prep the tank, this would involve lifting it on jacks and placing large c section channel under the suspension/tracks to act as skis, ........ :cool2:. rick always worked well with dozers and other tracked machines I had 'die on me' whilst 'in the field' especially if they had lost a track or suffered some other calamitous failure that prevented a simple 'tow out' with a bigger machine at one time I kept some 3/8" plate ones folded up especially for that very job.. complete with fixing eyes and lateral stays to keep them the right width apart and also a 'drawbar' to go on either end PS: I'd love to be involved in any heavy recoveries such as this that might be planned by anyone.... handy on quite a bit of plant I am see! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddy8men Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 great minds think alike bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Barrell Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 otterburn ........ during a long summer dry spell Seldom seen in the same sentence, that might be the flaw in the plan! :-D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddy8men Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 lol I did think the same thing when I was typing that reply, bloody place is full of adders as well :wow: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maurice Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 every time I have been up there it was miserable, once walked up to the 2 Grizzly tanks , and the moors are that agressive that after comming home my leather shoes started to moulder away, had to skip them . At that time I also had a look at the cocrete filled AVRE , jee she was still perfect for restoration, shortly after that she was gone . And about recovering tanks there is somebody who needs tracks a certain tank , just been up there today , and got bogged down straight away with a wheeled excavator.Only the bucket could retrieve it again . I still know of a M10 in Belgium , it is 6 miles into the woods , but it is 4 miles marshland , to the tank . It was driven there when the ground was frozen , but cracked through it , and abandoned. There is now just about 7 inches from the turret sticking out of the bog . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Barrell Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 And about recovering tanks there is somebody who needs tracks a certain tank , just been up there today , and got bogged down straight away with a wheeled excavator.Only the bucket could retrieve it again . And that is after a dry summer! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maurice Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 yep , were the tanks are it is very firm now , but the path to them is still bad , there is a stream next to it . Condition of the wrecks is not to bad , even after 60 + years outside . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lauren Child Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Strangely I've ended up with two copies of this manual - one June 1942 like yours, and one dated August 1942. The August one drops all of the stowage diagrams from the middle of the book. It also drops the "Issued by Vauxhall Motors". There are two corrections on the inside front cover. Turn off the engine before operating the CO2 fire extinguisher, and don't change the engine oil monthly if you run for less than 500 miles. Now I just need the tank to go with them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pzkpfw-e Posted October 1, 2013 Author Share Posted October 1, 2013 Those corrections are in my copy, a sticky label with red letters! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddy8men Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 some of the otterburn avre's. the concreted avre ended up with dave Arnold at the isle of wight museum and is now for sale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferrettkitt Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 some of the otterburn avre's. the concreted avre ended up with dave Arnold at the isle of wight museum and is now for sale I take it that these have gone or the usable parts have? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlienFTM Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Seldom seen in the same sentence, that might be the flaw in the plan! :-D Summer of 77. As Squadron Leader's Land Rover driver, I was invited, after Ex Trident, to stay up in Otterburn with my 3/4 ton FFR and GW Troop for their Swingfire firing, to act as gopher. Monday, everything went swimmingly. Tuesday, front up at the ATGM firing point, only to be diverted to the impact area to put out all the fires we (they) had started yesterday when their Swingfires had embedded themselves into the peat and burnt deep. Not an easy task. Had the peat been wet, no problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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