senschu Posted July 4, 2011 Share Posted July 4, 2011 Hi I am thinking of purchasing a Ford GPW the chassis seems good,engine is a willys,all ford front, possibly repro bonnet.Windshield has vacuum wipers.Owner converted to breakerless ignition so regulator missing and other bits.Would this have been a 12v or 6v and how can I tell. What shoulld I look for to clarify original or repro tub.It does not have a notch in the dasboard upper/outer.Some dials look original others repro,would the speedo have MPH on it? Lots of questions so any help gratefully received as I am going for second look tomorrow Senschu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Johns Posted July 4, 2011 Share Posted July 4, 2011 (edited) HiI am thinking of purchasing a Ford GPW the chassis seems good,engine is a willys,all ford front, possibly repro bonnet.Windshield has vacuum wipers.Owner converted to breakerless ignition so regulator missing and other bits.Would this have been a 12v or 6v and how can I tell. What shoulld I look for to clarify original or repro tub.It does not have a notch in the dasboard upper/outer.Some dials look original others repro,would the speedo have MPH on it? Lots of questions so any help gratefully received as I am going for second look tomorrow Senschu If there is no notch in the flange above the centre of the dash chances are its a Hotchkiss body, or certainly a repro, so many ww2 Jeeps were rebuilt by the French military and fitted with later bodys and hotchkiss/cj2 engines look to see if there is a body number stamped into the bulkhead above the fuel filter that will confirm its a hotchkiss tub, refer to the previous thread re other body differences between a willys & hotchkiss jeeps. Late jeeps had trico vacuum wipers, all originally were 6 volt, but again the french converted a lot to 12 volt, Original speedos were not marked mph, repro and later ones often were Edited July 4, 2011 by Nick Johns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willysmb Posted July 4, 2011 Share Posted July 4, 2011 On the whole, No Notch = Hotchkiss/repro tub BUT very early Jeep tubs ( willys ) also did not have a notch.. you could Google "Andy carter M201 Jeep " it has some great Hotchkiss jeep info .. also google "Jessie the jeep" again for some great general info .. If you can post some pics that will help also .. ken.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenkinov Posted July 4, 2011 Share Posted July 4, 2011 My suggestion is to take a series of Photos of the body engine bay ...Axles as many as possible and post them on the forum ....With the combined knowledge of the HMVF members you will get a consensus plus tips and advice ... Regards Jenkinov Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
senschu Posted July 5, 2011 Author Share Posted July 5, 2011 thanks all wil take a load of pictures today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
senschu Posted July 5, 2011 Author Share Posted July 5, 2011 Managed to take a few pics,Jeep could not be moved,I am inclined to believe it is a Ford chassis.Willys engine (bits missing!) and a Hotchkiss tub,with original what ? Detailed analysis from you knowledgable gents would be appreciated and what would you pay realistically not silly market prices. Many thanks for any help senschu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jessie The Jeep Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 Yes, a Hotchkiss body, with a body number of 18xxx stamped just above the fuel filter. It also looks to be a later body due to the flutes in the brackets that support the rear body just behind the rear seat ( early ones didn't have the flutes ). Pintle hook looks wartime as the Hotchkiss ones had a safety pin to stop accidental opening. Springs have the Ford clamps with a bolt, rather than the Willys/Hotchkiss crimped clamp around the spring leaves. No notch in the body on the dash and lots of spot welds is a Hotchkiss feature, as are the kinked side panel supports down by your feet in the drivers compartment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Johns Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 It is as you correctly identified its a Ford gpw, rebuilt with a Hotchkiss tub, which is still better than a new repro one, it has a wartime engine, correct carb, fuel & air filters, only modern bit is the alternator, seems to have all the right other bits, looks ok for a good average jeep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jessie The Jeep Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 The screen looks wartime. The handle on the inside to open it with is a casting on wartime vehicles and pressed flat sheet on Hotchkiss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jessie The Jeep Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 The hinge on the hood also looks wartime too, as Hotchkiss hinges have 13 segments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
senschu Posted July 8, 2011 Author Share Posted July 8, 2011 anyone else have any comments Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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