paulob1 Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 not a restoration but a modiication into an off road toy, reducing as much weight as I can and making her as off roady as i can...more to come... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormin Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 not a restoration but a modiication into an off road toy, reducing as much weight as I can and making her as off roady as i can...more to come... Are you going to swap the tyres or run a cutter through them? Bargrips aren't renowned for their grip! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulob1 Posted February 5, 2010 Author Share Posted February 5, 2010 they are going to become russian ural 14/20's bit bigger and i will have to cut the body work under the cab a bit to accomodate....so the bar grips are on their way out...I am hoping that with the reduced weight will make sure the bevel boxes dont crash on me...although tractor joint wear could be an issue... anyway with her coming in at around 5 tons about 3 tons less than normal i am hoping she will fly along and have enough grunt to takle most hills and muddy bogs...shes a bit big to follw a landy but she should be okay on most routes on slab common for instance... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antar Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 they are going to become russian ural 14/20's bit bigger and i will have to cut the body work under the cab a bit to accomodate....so the bar grips are on their way out...I am hoping that with the reduced weight will make sure the bevel boxes dont crash on me...although tractor joint wear could be an issue... anyway with her coming in at around 5 tons about 3 tons less than normal i am hoping she will fly along and have enough grunt to takle most hills and muddy bogs...shes a bit big to follw a landy but she should be okay on most routes on slab common for instance... You won't be going tooooo far without that 100 gallon petrol tank though even if you lose 3 tonnes !!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gritineye Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 a bit big to follw a landy but she should be okay on most routes on slab common for instance... That should be a great fun vehicle, but beware the MODs ban on aggressive tyres, dumper type tyres unacceptable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulob1 Posted February 6, 2010 Author Share Posted February 6, 2010 going with standard russian off roaders...great tyres... For off roading fuel consumption wont matter a great deal and to be fair with 3 tons less weight the fuel saving isnt the aim of the game, reducing wear and tear and making it a bit keener to go up the really steep hils is my aim, 240 bhp into 8 tons or 5 tons is a big difference...although I am not sure i can really lose 3 tons yet...the dowtys and dowty drives are heavy ish, I will remove as much as I can that isnt useful...may even remove the glass and just fit a big wire mesh cover...she will only be coming out in the nice weather...will look at what I get once she is stripped out... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulob1 Posted February 15, 2010 Author Share Posted February 15, 2010 the back bodywork is about to be cut off as soon as we get some warm weather. i was hoping to have her ruinning by the time ot the 28th AWDC heavies outing but looks like i have too much work on the zils and urals for that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtistsRifles Posted February 15, 2010 Share Posted February 15, 2010 If you are cutting the body work flush along the whole length what are your plans for the exhaust Paul - particularly what passes for a Stalwarts silencer as that is in the O/S/ rear corner tower? And if going for light weight - are you going to dump the hydraulic winch and related hydraulic valves and heavy piping?? If you are - I know a potential home for the winch and it;s cable/riding shoe!! :cool2: :cool2: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyFowler Posted February 15, 2010 Share Posted February 15, 2010 Sounds like a winch might come in handy if Pauls gonna push the old girl to her limits Neil !:-D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtistsRifles Posted February 15, 2010 Share Posted February 15, 2010 Sounds like a winch might come in handy if Pauls gonna push the old girl to her limits Neil !:-D True - but if he's going for the ultimate light weight.......... :-D :-D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewis Garner Posted February 15, 2010 Share Posted February 15, 2010 I want to see a few videos of this beast put on YouTube when it's finished! Should be capable of going up the side of a house! Regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gritineye Posted February 17, 2010 Share Posted February 17, 2010 going with standard russian off roaders...great tyres.. Having now seen that these tyres appear to fit Scammell rims where would I start to look to possibly buy a set from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulob1 Posted February 18, 2010 Author Share Posted February 18, 2010 I can get you a load of them....just tell me how many you want...will be going out to collect them in a few weeks...they will cost 120 pounds each with free delivery to the UK...well to Guildford where you can either collect or have delivered... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gritineye Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 Sounds good so far Paul, would these be new, can you get new tubes, and any idea of ply rating? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulob1 Posted February 18, 2010 Author Share Posted February 18, 2010 I want to see a few videos of this beast put on YouTube when it's finished! Should be capable of going up the side of a house! Regards Thats my thoughts too... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harry7134 Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 From a dim and distant memory, I seem to recall a great deal of consternation about the constant velocity joints on the Stalwart, and that trials showed that running the vehicle with little or no load increased the chances of failure, whilst running under full load was a better option. Apparently this was due to the shafts running in a " straighter" line when carrying a heavy load. Also I believe that the lubricating oil was changed, but I do not know from what to what. One further point is that the individual tyre circumference wear must also be taken into account, but again it is so long ago that the actual dimensions have been forgotten, but would be available in the relevant EMER. All this may sound like a "killjoy" atitude, but if the Stolly is only going to be used for short runs it may, hopefully, be completely irrelevant.:undecided: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Farrant Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 From a dim and distant memory, I seem to recall a great deal of consternation about the constant velocity joints on the Stalwart, and that trials showed that running the vehicle with little or no load increased the chances of failure, whilst running under full load was a better option. Apparently this was due to the shafts running in a " straighter" line when carrying a heavy load. Harry, I have been watching this and agree with what you say about angle of drive lines. The more weight removed will increase the angle of the drives with every chance of wrecking a bevel box or tracta joint. I remember resetting the torsion bars on a Stalwart that was in service with a training unit and used unladen, because they had recuring problems, so I adjusted it to its loaded position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtistsRifles Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 The recommendation is to lower the ride height to the laden position to relieve the transmission - mine has been done like this. Reduces suspension travel but not so that it would be noticeable unladen. The oil in the wheel stations (Mk 1 or central lube system (Mk2) is OEP-220 or the civilian equivalent, an 80W/90 GL4 gear oil. Richard N. the Stalwart guru told me the SSI (quoted below) recommended the addition of OX-320 - or Achesons "OilDag" - to the wheel stations and lube system thus: The central lube tank should be initially filled with 19 pints (Imp) of OEP220 and 1 1/3 pints of OX320. (This assumes the hubs have been pre-loaded with 5 1/3rd pints of OEP220 and OX320) It then has the BBs filled by removing their level plugs and waiting up to 2 hrs for oil to appear, then a further 12 pints of OEP220 is introduced into the central lube and the vehicle run until the level stabilises. Topping-up is done with OEP220 only. However it's not done so very often as the last price I saw on the web for the stuff was £200 for a 20 Kg tin.:wow: Tyre matching - as with the other in the FV-6xx series - is a case of no more than 2" MAX difference between largest dia and smallest dia tyres with the largest on the front wheels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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