montie Posted August 20, 2015 Author Share Posted August 20, 2015 (edited) Saracen 88's rotting away! Edited August 22, 2015 by montie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starfire Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 What's happening with yours, Montie? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montie Posted August 22, 2015 Author Share Posted August 22, 2015 What's happening with yours, Montie? Not too much lately, it has been winter but the weather is changing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montie Posted August 22, 2015 Author Share Posted August 22, 2015 A garry for good measure and yet another Saracen 88 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starfire Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 Did you sort out your hub issues though? Mine blew a hub a few weeks ago and I'm trying to allocate funds to fixing it. Cheers, Terry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montie Posted August 23, 2015 Author Share Posted August 23, 2015 Not yet, we are more or less on the same par. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starfire Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 I should be ordering parts in the next few days. FYI: Part Nos of standard wheel stations, their locations and applicability are: [TABLE] [TR] [TD]FV No [/TD] [TD]NSN [/TD] [TD]Location [/TD] [TD]Applicability [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]FV 638168 [/TD] [TD]9AAD/2590-99-828-3072 [/TD] [TD]Left Hand Front, Right Hand Centre, Right Hand Rear [/TD] [TD]Mk 1, 2 & 5 [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]FV 638169 [/TD] [TD]9AAD/2590-99-828-3073 [/TD] [TD]Right Hand Front, Left Hand Centre, Left Hand Rear [/TD] [TD]Mk 1, 2 & 5 [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]FV 638170 [/TD] [TD]9AAD/2590-99-828-3074 [/TD] [TD]Left Hand Front, Right Hand Centre, Right Hand Rear [/TD] [TD]Mk 3 & 6 [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]FV 638171 [/TD] [TD]9AAD/2590-99-828-3075 [/TD] [TD]Right Hand Front, Left Hand Centre, Left Hand Rear [/TD] [TD]Mk 3 & 6 [/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] Cheers, Terry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montie Posted August 31, 2015 Author Share Posted August 31, 2015 (edited) I should be ordering parts in the next few days. FYI: Part Nos of standard wheel stations, their locations and applicability are: [TABLE] [TR] [TD]FV No[/TD] [TD]NSN[/TD] [TD]Location[/TD] [TD]Applicability[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]FV 638168[/TD] [TD]9AAD/2590-99-828-3072[/TD] [TD]Left Hand Front, Right Hand Centre, Right Hand Rear[/TD] [TD]Mk 1, 2 & 5[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]FV 638169[/TD] [TD]9AAD/2590-99-828-3073[/TD] [TD]Right Hand Front, Left Hand Centre, Left Hand Rear[/TD] [TD]Mk 1, 2 & 5[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]FV 638170[/TD] [TD]9AAD/2590-99-828-3074[/TD] [TD]Left Hand Front, Right Hand Centre, Right Hand Rear[/TD] [TD]Mk 3 & 6[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]FV 638171[/TD] [TD]9AAD/2590-99-828-3075[/TD] [TD]Right Hand Front, Left Hand Centre, Left Hand Rear[/TD] [TD]Mk 3 & 6[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] Cheers, Terry Thanks, much appreciated! Amazing, why would they be different and in this order? Edited August 31, 2015 by montie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montie Posted August 31, 2015 Author Share Posted August 31, 2015 Yet another Saracen 88 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starfire Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 I believe the side to side differences are mostly due to how the brake lines are attached. I have no idea what the difference between the RFC and NON-RFC ones are, which could be an issue, as I had to order an RFC one for my Saracen, as there was no stock of the others. If anyone can shed any light there, I'd appreciate it. Cheers, Terry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Farrant Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 (edited) I should be ordering parts in the next few days. FYI: Part Nos of standard wheel stations, their locations and applicability are: [TABLE] [TR] [TD]FV No [/TD] [TD]NSN [/TD] [TD]Location [/TD] [TD]Applicability [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]FV 638168 [/TD] [TD]9AAD/2590-99-828-3072 [/TD] [TD]Left Hand Front, Right Hand Centre, Right Hand Rear [/TD] [TD]Mk 1, 2 & 5 [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]FV 638169 [/TD] [TD]9AAD/2590-99-828-3073 [/TD] [TD]Right Hand Front, Left Hand Centre, Left Hand Rear [/TD] [TD]Mk 1, 2 & 5 [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]FV 638170 [/TD] [TD]9AAD/2590-99-828-3074 [/TD] [TD]Left Hand Front, Right Hand Centre, Right Hand Rear [/TD] [TD]Mk 3 & 6 [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]FV 638171 [/TD] [TD]9AAD/2590-99-828-3075 [/TD] [TD]Right Hand Front, Left Hand Centre, Left Hand Rear [/TD] [TD]Mk 3 & 6 [/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] Cheers, Terry Hi Terry, I have no idea where you got these stock numbers from because neither the FV or NSN is shown in my Saracen parts book (Army code no 12259). But if they are for complete wheel stations then there is an error there, as they are grouped in mixes of left hand and right hand, Wrong! Left side has LH threads on wheels studs and Right side has RH threads. You had best check this out. Richard Edited September 1, 2015 by Richard Farrant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montie Posted September 1, 2015 Author Share Posted September 1, 2015 Hi Terry,I have no idea where you got these stock numbers from because neither the FV or NSN is shown in my Saracen parts book (Army code no 12259). But if they are for complete wheel stations then there is an error there, as they are grouped in mixes of left hand and right hand, Wrong! Left side has LH threads on wheels studs and Right side has RH threads. You had best check this out. Richard The master speaks! Thanks Richard! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starfire Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 Very interesting indeed. My information is from V614, Chapter 4, Paragraph 19. Issue 1, Aug 1977. I have an FV 638171 on its way to me now, so I guess we'll see how that goes... Cheers, Terry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starfire Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 Something that I don't have, but need, is the Saracen parts book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Farrant Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 Very interesting indeed. My information is from V614, Chapter 4, Paragraph 19. Issue 1, Aug 1977. I have an FV 638171 on its way to me now, so I guess we'll see how that goes... Cheers, Terry Ah, I see where you got it from now, Standardised Wheel Stations. Will have to see what it consists of, maybe the hubs are not in the assembly. When we repaired Saracens in static workshops, always rebuilt the wheel stations, do not recall them supplying assemblies. My parts list is dated early 70's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starfire Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 That's probably because you were equipped to rebuild them. If you could shed some light on the differences between the wheel stations and what, if anything, is different on the RFC vehicles, that would be great. Cheers, Terry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starfire Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 This arrived today. It has left hand threads on the wheel nuts, but how it differs from any other wheel stations or between marks, I have no idea. Unless someone can fill me in, I'll just have to compare it with what I have. I also got a heap of other spares and accessories, including a full set of the later (4 barrel) smoke launchers and a set of NOS vision blocks. Cheers, Terry ~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Farrant Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 This arrived today. It has left hand threads on the wheel nuts, but how it differs from any other wheel stations or between marks, I have no idea. Unless someone can fill me in, I'll just have to compare it with what I have. ~ Terry, It would be a LH front (if it has the lug for the steering on back and front) or LH centre. Have not looked in to the parts list to see what variations there are. What is wrong with the wheel station on your Saracen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starfire Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 I need to replace the Left-Hand Rear on my Mk 5. According to the standardised wheel stations list, this will fit the Left-Hand Rear of a Mk 3 or 6. How they differ, I have no idea. Mine currently looks like this: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Farrant Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 I need to replace the Left-Hand Rear on my Mk 5. According to the standardised wheel stations list, this will fit the Left-Hand Rear of a Mk 3 or 6. How they differ, I have no idea. Mine currently looks like this: Looks like it may be been apart and gears not timed correctly on re-assembly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starfire Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 Nah, it let go spectacularly the last time I went for a drive. I noted that it was very hot when I got back and there was some noise when moving the vehicle. After a turn or two, the lines weren't aligned anymore either. As far as I know, one that's been assembled with incorrect gear timing will chew itself to pieces in less than one rotation; my hub had been a bit suspect for almost 2 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Farrant Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 It has left hand threads on the wheel nuts, but how it differs from any other wheel stations or between marks, I have no idea. Unless someone can fill me in, I'll just have to compare it with what I have. ~ Terry, Just been through the parts list, that covers all Marks, and in the wheel station section there is no variations listed for particular Marks. The nearest transmission area that does have variations is bevel boxes and I cannot help thinking that whoever wrote that paragraph in the EMER had their wires crossed, it would not be the first time. Had come across this sort of error in EMERs before and had gone unnoticed for years before it was reported. cheers Richard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Farrant Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 Nah, it let go spectacularly the last time I went for a drive. I noted that it was very hot when I got back and there was some noise when moving the vehicle. After a turn or two, the lines weren't aligned anymore either. As far as I know, one that's been assembled with incorrect gear timing will chew itself to pieces in less than one rotation; my hub had been a bit suspect for almost 2 years. One revolution or less ...... yes that is true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starfire Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 Interesting... Since the assembly comes with half of the inner tracta joint, perhaps that is where the difference lies then? Cheers, Terry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montie Posted December 11, 2015 Author Share Posted December 11, 2015 Long time, no see! More pics of South African Saracens, two of which are Saracen 88's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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