LarryH57

Guys, I've not seen this film dating from 1945, so I suspect many of you have not either. Anyway enjoy and try spotting all the British and Canadian vehicles used by the Yanks as reverse Lease Lend! http://www.510fs.org/wwii/videos/item/336-fight-for-the-sky-1945-wwii-fighter-pilot-documentary

A rather strange question - but when the Imperial War Graves Commission (now CWGC) buried the unidentified dead from WW1 how much of a persons remains did they need to constitute a body? I've just returned from a tour of the Western Front with my son, who wondered if there could have been an element of double counting if say a head was found, then an upper torso and then a separate lower torso. Could these end up as three 'Soldiers of the Great War known unto God'? What were the rules for this situation and also for smaller body parts. Was a hand or a foot found on the battlefield during or after WW1 also buried in a grave with a headstone, or dealt with in another manner.

I'll have ten of them too!

Once again thanks

Dear Wdbikemad, thanks for your reply; it would seem then that I have a modified mid WW2 OR shirt if it has 'plastic' type buttons, rather than metal, and buttonholes to take a detachable collar. The green colour of mine is just like the first photo I posted and not brown like yours or the shirts I have seen on Living History guys. Presumably they were made in slight colour variations or was there a shift away from brown at some stage? BTW mine has a small loop sown in to the shirt behind the collar, presumably so that it may be hung up but I'm not sure if this was a post-war mod when in use as a nightshirt!

Is this the Humber today as seen at WPR?

I should have said the colour in the first photo is more like the original shirt

I saw this shirt at a jumble sale which I bought for £1. I think I am auto tuned to look at anything green! The lady on the stall thought it might have been a mans nightshirt and perhaps that's what many were used for. The shirt has button holes round the neck for a collar to be attached; for an Officer?. In the area above the label there are marks that look like a name or perhaps a dhobiwallah mark.

I agree with Clive concerning the fairground that it was in the way - after all it could be placed in the far corner of the traders area where no one much bothered to go. If you wanted the fairground rides they wouldn't be far from the main buildings but as suggested the current site for the fair could then be used for something better.

Barry thanks for showing me your work at WPR, news travels fast around H&WL MVT. Thanks also to Paul for the beers!

Interesting comments and all valid. With regard to the state of the toilets one of the causes is lack of personal hygiene when camping out, which inevitably leads to diarrhoea. When at home we wash our hands far more in the kitchen and after going to the toilet than we do when living out of the back of our MVs or camping in a hot and dusty tent. So standards start to go down hill and with scores of people in front of the afflicted in the toilet queue, its no wonder they miss the target when they finally get in. So I'm told there were 14,000 campers(?) at WPR and if true it comes as no surprise that many people fell foul to this type of illness. If there are any inventors among us then to improve the toilets they need to design one made entirely of galvanised steel with a non-slip mesh floor, allowing spills to drain away in to an enormous under floor sump. to keep them sweet these toilets would then be closed regularly for a few minutes and hosed out completely and sprayed with disinfectant. The sump and other waste would then be pumped out. This could be done mechanically or by a willing volunteer wearing suitable protective kit! Enough said on that. Regarding the ditches these were annoying in the LH field and Rex needs to make some exit and entry points to avoid the dead ends and get more visitors seeing all the displays. As for the Arena I agree it was hard to watch the action without a bank. I was rather hoping the site owners would rather have the place used for events and so the white fences could go and the Arena be moved nearer the stands. If not the WPR will need to build a scaffold stand for the event which is not cheap. One other point concerning the Arena; I know that posts need to be in place to mark out a safety zone but did they all need to have a safety notice taped to them and red and white tape used to mark the side of the Arena exit? Could these not be marked out in other ways like false walls or something natural in appearance so as not to spoil photographs? Also could the vans and other vehicles on the far side of the Arena be moved out too please? Do the organisers know that people love to take photos with as little clutter in the background as possible?. Lastly for vehicle owners who cannot stay for a week and arrive say on Thursday or Friday, is there any way that they could move their vehicle so that it is not left among the white vans and caravans in the far off fields, so that it may be seen and appreciated by the public? As it was this year my MV may as well not have been there at all. And for that matter why is WPR always on BEFORE the UK summer holidays. If it started a week later I would be there for the week but as it stands I can't be guaranteed by the school that they will be given special leave, so at present I can only commit to the last few days of the show.

Snowie, If you go to the Ex Military Land Rover Association site and sign up to access it (whether or not you are a member) there is a whole sub section on Radio gear including Clansman. http://forum.emlra.org/viewforum.php?f=11&sid=609e8681281e8853fadeccb6972e12e4 I hope this helps Larry The Lwt

Marmite, I clicked on the Photobucket links and the photos did not open - BUT instead a link opened asking me to pay a donation to HMVF from Paypal. Is this your master plan? Sorry to disappoint at this time but I've already signed up to have my brain cells removed by Direct Debit for other clubs and as I have just saved my £1,500 in cash for food and incidental items I might find on the stalls at WPR I'm a bit flush at the moment!

Marmite, your Photobucket photos have disappeared????!!!

Marmite - In your post Number 103 posted at 09.13, it looks like David Cameron on the desert motorbike in Photo 10! Its good he can find time to attend

Interesting photos - certainly shows the size of the place but lots of civi camping and vans, which I thought WPR had banned?

Perhaps the MVT / IMPS should produce a leaflet for owners to leave in a prominent place so that relatives will know what to do if and when the MV owner dies leaving MVs and related stuff. Clubs could organise to have the collection auctioned to other MV owners etc. rather than have it taken by the local house clearance firm, to the dump! I've known of a working Austin K9 Ambulance be towed away to the scrap yard because the person responsible for it did not realise that people collect such vehicles and as 'no one wanted it' so it got the chop. There are many older MV owners who are not on the internet, who never attend club meetings and no doubt can't get out to shows. If they hold on to their pride and joy in the garage, these vehicles are most at risk. I could do a whole new thread on where are they now with photos of MVs that have disappeared, which I suspect are examples of the above.

You might try the Duxford MV show organisers - if you get in quick they may still have details of who owned the MW and agree to pass on your details to him.

One way is to look for Hotchkiss data plates or later Hotchkiss wheels with less nuts than the original. Some Hotchkiss (if not all?) had a number stamped in to the chassis just behind the front bumper - on the left had side as you face the vehicle.

If the War Office and MOD had saved just one example of every type of vehicle they have ever disposed of, just think what a great museum that would be!

Well the wheels look too big for it to be a 2 pdr AT - could it be a limber from a 25 pdr gun? If so why would Hanno be so interested in that. Perhaps it is something CMP or Marmon Herrington related?

I had a good look through this old thread but despite seeing a few K2 Ambulances in preservation I do not think I have seen a Katty in RAF service in WW2! Has anyone got any photos to help me build mine - well the only one I can afford from Airfix!!

I liked the photo of the three Lancs. Which reminds me if we get two Lancs in the air then invite the Canadians over with theirs and get a Lancaster vic formation in the air over The Mall and Buckingham Palace to drop a ton of poppies on 8th May 2015. Oh and get the three Lancs booked in for the Victory Show and give the Vulcan boys a rest!

Well many shows did start out just like that - an open space for exhibitors and another for the visitor car park. But I wasn't really suggesting thats all that is needed now. Obviously a good site is very important and to my mind the more rural the better, like the Victory Show but I agree it does need someone to organise it and for indemnity insurances, health and safety to be assessed etc What I was suggesting is that we all get together and do a big show ourselves with the help of all the expertise we have and even if I end up to put in more than the £25 it would give me and many other MV owners great satisfaction in knowing it was done for us and not to gain a huge profit for someone else at our expense. As for camping at W&P for 8 days or more for £25 thats OK if you actually do so but for many owners who still have kids at school till the last weekend of W&P or who have to save much of their miserly holiday entitlement for a two week family holiday its not so easy, so only stay one night

Has anyone considered that as MV club members we could arrange our own massive MV event and charge a nominal fee to book in (say £25) and then return it to the owner when they turn up? Even better why not have members send in a sub for a proposed show and return a share of the profits to them according to how much they put in? Perhaps every £1 could equate with one share - but obviously on the basis that past performance is no indication of future returns (especially as the weather may spoil things). Despite the hard economic times we are in, there is still enough money collectively for us to run a W & P equivalent as a co-operative and share the cost and any profit? Incentives could be paid to members bringing rarer / interesting vehicles such as the Sd Kfz collection, or for interesting displays as these should all attract the public and in turn increase revenue? I'm sure there must be a farm somewhere in the Midlands south of Birmingham that would let out a few fields each summer? If it was regularly booked we wouldn't have to wait for the harvest to be in either!