ted angus

Hi Chaps, having a real problem navigating this and several other forums since I updated to internet explorer 9 anyway We also believed the truck with the 4 pillars is a truck that carried bridging components and is either a Leyland or an Albion but a Leyland looks favourite. The truck with just the front view is a new one to me but i also think its a Leyland which had a canvas top to the cab, The truck with the wheel on the drivers door is an Albion bowser with the 3 refuelling booms, I have a note on a disc that motorcycles in hold 2 were BSA but personally motorcycles are not in my knowledge pot ! Once I get these bl**dy pc problems sorted I will try and contribute more to this thread including pictures wish me luck no wonder I have no hair and now the state pension. I would like to share this with my son but he is abroad and it may be some weeks be fore I see him. TED

I cannot believe I am reading this thread: many years ago my son was on a couple of RAF diving expos onto this ship; He took many photos and having previously seen lots of incorrectly captioned photos from the Thistlegorm on various websites and knowing I was a total military vehicle & equipment anorak after a lifetime in the hobby and 39 years in the RAF we set about correctly identifying the items in his photos; I subsequently posted the info on several vehicle websites and he posted it in the diving world, so I am a bit gobsmacked to see the identification being revisited. Yes the wrongly identified Matadors are indeed Crossley Q FWDs, somewhere in the hold was a Chance Bros aerodrome runway floodlight trailer which had previously been published as the remains of a Rolls Royce armoured car . Bedford OYs, and a number of Fordson WOT3 and possibly some WOT1s . Keep at it and Good luck lads TED

I have crawled over several of the ex AFS Rcys especially 377 ALC which was the Scottish one- (they were allocated one per home defence region) , I have also crawled over several ex REME ones and couldn't find any difference; The Rcy were the only batch of AFS vehicles to have an unmodified military pattern cab, all the other batches of RL had a solid cab roof and the Commer Q4s had many changes for AFS use , but the Bedford RLC Rcy were unmolested ! TED

Hi Ian, welcome aboard ! regards TED

I have a mint set in my ready to go to war box in the attic !! TED

Those boots were issued to certain RAF ground engineering trades; They were issued to Squadrons and Flights and then signed out on a loan card by individuals, on posting they had to be handed in. I always wore mine with sea boot socks , great footwear for those miserable winters on airfields in UK & Germany. We always refered to them as TROG boots ! TED

Dictionary never thought right here goes : mine is a concise Oxford; as a noun - rail of cart; in plural- permanent or removeable framework added to the sides of cart to increase capacity . which is just how the guy used the word when I wanted to put rails above my box body trailer. so adding Collins to Oxford I am even more convinced its the rails above the vertical sidepieces of the cart/wagon/trailer. Ted

Hi Tony thanks for your reply on Raves, while trying to get rid of my full size vehicles I have been back into my modelling over the winter and I have been trying to sort the different Marks and types of trailer; From somewhere in the very distant past in the RAF I had heard the term rave when I was putting "rails" onto the top of my box trailer to increase capacity, when I started delving into the data book entries and I found both the MK1 10cwt and the similarly constructed 15 cwt were described as rave sided bodies whereas the MK2 trailer with the thruppenny bit wings is described as truck type box body. The MK1 trailer entry also talks about the canvas cover could accomadated loading 6 inches higher than the top Rave -- hence my conclusion ? As to the description of the verticals on your trailer -I have heard - the corners are normally referred to as corner posts and the other verticals on the side as side angles ? Sorry I have taken this thread off course - fantastic to see the work. regards TED

Gents am I loosing the plot ?? mention is made of welding the RAVES I have always understood the RAVES are the horizontal "rails" fitted to vehicle bosies to increas load space as per the No1 trailer - indeed in the data book leaf it says the Canvas cover is such that the trailer may be loaded to 6 inches above the top RAVE - ??? thoughts TED

thanks Wally Regards TED

I thought it was a detective programme not a programme about re enacters ?? Afraid the officer corp didn't come over too well did they but it did typify those I met in the 1960s. The LSD trials went on much later than 63 I knew guys who went on them as late as 1967 to get a few extra bob ! the caption at the beginning--- i.e the time of the turkish bath incident said REDCAR 1969 . TED

RE civillian reg numbers on military items, I have photos taken near Antwerp in late 1944 of RAF vehicles still on theior middlesex civvy reg numbers, I also have a picture of a RAF convoy in southern UK at the height og the V2 attacks and they too are on civvy plates- I have also seen in some of the old auction cats several items brought into service pre 1041 still bearing their Middlesex reg numbers. The NFS had a good number of Indians TED

Hi Tony its coming on well - my thoughts are it may have been film work ? regards TED

Thanks Wally all appreciated !

Hi Dave yes please use the pic . Thanks for the info . Some strange things went on with these trucks. They were the dread of MTSS ! The one that was at Barkston 26AG70 this belonged to the RAF & DFS association any idea where it is do you have it at Scampton now ? It and another were at their museum at Shoreham then they moved to Halfpenny Green then the trucks moved to Barkston. I believe this is the one that contains the parts of 2 different trucks ?? Hi Wally love a copy of that video please must go sick dog and sick wife so I am ic house today regards TED

Thanks Wally for the shot that was the pre production proto RAF reg 22AG 54 it was tested to destruction ??!!** at Chertsey then used as a training aide. Dave thanks for the data plate, you must have read what I wrote before I deleted it- there was/is another MK in restoration/ or has been restored which is an amalgamation of at least 2 vehicles, and I was thinking of that when I saw yours - because you have fitting a set of secondary media hose stowage cages, which of course were not fitted on your original varant Mk6; It looks as if the secondary media hose reels were missing soon after the RAF handed it to the National Fire Service Museum Trust. . I have attached a picture of your 23 AG 56 when it was in store for the National Fire Service Museum trust . I believe it was lodging in the RAF museum reserve store at its previous site at RAF Cardington . regards TED

Dave, Foamite built 7 of those crash tenders for south Africa between March 58 & Oct 62. TED

Thanks Wally and belated birthday greetings for 11th Dec regards TED

N O S many thanks our posts crossed !! just what I need thank you . Wally this is what I needed problem solved thanks to both of you regards TED

Hi Wally, I think your pics are the prototype with the timber body. What I am after are the stowage illustrations as per con4c attached which unfortunately I can't read. regards TED

Cheers Wally, I did know about the trials vehicles we covered that I think on the Mini Moke thread ? - on a slightly different track I am after a diagram showing the stowage plan for the Army Constructor ballast tractor can you help please ? and on an even further offtrack subject a CES for the ARMY fire service lookalikes of the Green Goddess which gives locker and stowage details, all the best for 2014 TED

When the Army took over RAF Episkopi overnight the whole MT fleet that was transferred to the garrison got BT plates- of course it was the fire trucks that interested me; I also have note of a Bedford Pyrene MK8 crash tender transfered to the ARMY from the RAF at Sek Kong on handover of the base it too became a BT. As an aside the second page of Wally's post is identical to part of a list John Harrington sent me about 20 years ago ?

Min of Public Buildings and Works ; IT was replaced by the PSA who were an agency of the DoE. MPBW was formed when several Ministries that had their own Works dept, had them wound up under government efficiencies and they were combined with the old Min of Works. In the RAF , running parallel with the Airfield Construction Branch ACB was the Air Ministry Works Dept AMWD. Much of the ACBs non tacxtical work was tasked from AMWD.

At least one comnplete rig was transferred in Cyprus to the Army and I think one to MPBW TED

Gents at message 45 is a stowage diagram, could some kind soul post a more legible version please - about to embark on a model - thank you in anticipation regards TED