Shakey985

Looks like the blocks are setup for 2 vehicles and the spears are one the same just turned :beer:

Just what I need for crusing the Murry

I am reading "23 Battalion" history of New Zealand in the second world war. This was published in 1959 and is a well writen record of 500+ pages including maps and photos, writen by the men of the 23rd Battalion.

Thanks for that so a Terex/Atlas 560.2 15ton folding crane would be better. this would leave more room for the esky and a bed. however the hight when stowed is 2465 from the bed of the truck would this interfer with its air transportablity. the original design was for a folding crane.

For my two bobs worth History is as it happens in its time and in its place and to consider history when it occured you have to go back in time. Look at it from his eyes with the information he had, I would say that most of us would if we could go back in time change things but we ca'nt, so it should be left as it is and he did a bloody good job. All these new books do is sell, the first thing I look at in a new history book is the bibliography and sources, if dont have one dont by it.

Do they deliver to Sugarloaf Creek, It look like a good brew?

I am allways amazed at the number of shows you lot have and the quality of the vehicles on display. We over here seem to have colecters that hide there vehicles or still use there vehicles around the farm for work

http://www.armyjeeps.net/hemitt/hemmt.htm This is one of two that were for sale in the US. This one is at $85.000 and has no mention of wheather in can be exported out of the US, the other one was on ebay and went for around $65,000 but only for sale in the US ( see steel soldier forum) it was a much better version and there is a link to photos on Flicker. Oshkosh are now rebuilding all the old ones in a rebuild program.

I am sure that the SV® is a very good Truck and the trials team was constrained with in certain perameters. If I was on the team I would want a fridge, gas bottle and stove and a bed built into the design. To justify the fridge is for cold drinks in the hot climate they are working in, the cooking gear for the enevertable morning brew. The bed that converts to seating for the recovered crew. how ever they are not prioritys for the average ------ who lent his trade walking all day. I am sure that the recymech's over here will evently build them in if they are not suppled as they have done with the Mack. We are looking at the MAN and use the MAN as our Tank transporter but there is more to the tender process then getting the best truck. Have you been able to drive both MAN and HEMTT and if so which is the better and why, that is in the platform not the gear on the back. The over thing is the crane you have gained 2.5 ton but lost 1.5 plus metres of space? It should be noted that all my intel is from the net. :coffee:

The question is as platforms The MAN V HEMTT which is better, it would appear that both are doing well in the conditions of Afganistan, HEMTT A4 the upgraded vershion has the C-15 500hp engine with a Allison 4500SP/5 speed auto compared to the MAN engine and 12 Speed auto. I would be intrested in your opinion as to there performance while on trials. As to the recovery side after looking at a number of different options the UK package to me strikes the right balance without geting into a construction size crane. It also appears to be a lot more soldier freindly then any of the vershions produced by Oshkosh. What size crane did the Foden have and make? The only down side is that there is no room for a crew cab or space to carry the crew from the disabled vehicle, could this be rectifide by relocating CES bins? At some stage in the next 10 years our armys will start to down size again and these vehicles may come up for auction.

This is our current fleet

Thanks for that I love this Internet, on our original mack wreckers thay instaled a canvas cabin on the back in front of the crane, it was the same as used for the mack gun tractor for the carrage of the recovered crew, of course Recy-mechs being Recy-mechs soon converted it into the moble home away from home, could this be done? You can always come over and then apply as for my job it is fun but I hope to finish the restoration on the Vickers mediam this year it has been 4 years nearly of part time work.

The LVSR MKR15 comes with 2 17690kg duel drum, after having a good look at the specs your right. Oshkosh have also developed Heavy army recovery vehicle with a 5th wheel towing and recovery device based on the 10 wheeler, thay are using Rotzler TR-80 as there winch, some thing to look at. Currently at Pucka thay are going head to head at this stage just carrying concrete blocks around Australia. This is for the replacement of the mack fleet. I have herd that the replacement for the unimog fleet is now up in the air, so we might see a new trial for that fleet as well. At this stage I will have to put up whith my old M816 which I am just keeping operating for the Army Tank Museum, you should note that I am having a Ball with her towing and lifting strange heavy machines around the compound. The reson I am intrested in recovery vehicles is that in the what you would call outback there are tips with colections of old rusting machines of all shapes and sizes, leftovers from mineing operations, some dating back to the T model Ford, just waiting to be sorted, recovered and restored or sold. To get to some of these locations you need a good truck and trailer combination. With this in mind would there with some reconfigeration of your stowage a possability of instaling a sleeper cab the size of a small popup camper trailer?. Is there any chance of posting some pics of your truck?.:coffee:

This is the USMC new Wrecker coming into service soon, it is simular to the HEMTT but is called LVSR MKR15 Wrecker. Apart from now having 10 wheels with steering on the first 2 sets and steering on the last 2 sets, it is a HEMTT Length is just over a metre longer, the crane is better lifting 4.5 ton at 20 feet and 8 ton at 11 feet, the spade is now hydraulic, there are 2 main winchs plus self recovery winch. There is also a 10ton load space/4 pallets. Engine 600hp Cat with 7 speed auto, only a single speed T/case From what I can discover it is a improvment over the M984. I would love to know its turning circle compared to the M984.

I have had a look at the tab data. The Hemtt as a platform runs a 500 hp Cat engine with a 5 speed auto from Allison ( your HET 1070F tank transporter are running Cat 700hp with a 7 speed auto from Allison). With crane yours is heavier but can do a lot more in the crane department, you also have a hydrolic spade were Hemtt thy have to crane it of and assemble. With out driving both it is hard to make a comparison but in maintenance the Hemtt with the cat and Allison would appear easier as there is more around especially over here. The same goes for you, now you have to repair 2 types. As you were saying there is many others like Tatra, Renault and a Russian one. What you have going for you is probably the better recovery package of the lot. I would of liked to see a crew cab/sleeper tho and due you have a fridge fitted in there. What we need to do is design our own.:idea:

A couple of weeks ago I went on a tour of our school of armour and there was one thing that stood out and that was WE ARE AT WAR AND WE ARE TRAINING FOR THE NEXT ROTATION OF TROOPS. So if you miss a few shows that's life.

Thanks for your PM and I have looked at your associations web sight. BAE will replace I hope only the Unimog fleet?. I will post tab data on hemmtt and M1089. I would just like to point out we are recording history, these vehicles are available at the right price for the private collector and in 20 years a new fleet will enter service. Mobile Home USA Coming soon used Australian Landrover and Unimog fleet.

I do believe our new fleet will be from BAE Systems so our next wrecker will be FMTV A1 M1089 A1 currently used by the US Army.

Keep on trying, but our rece-mechs seam to love there job. there is all ways adds for army reserve rece-mechs. We have a sergeant in gunnery wing that did 20 years with RTR. The Mack is a very good truck entering service in 1983, I have seen it hauling loads that it really shouldn't ie something new large and heavy in from out on the range.The current Mack wrecker is the second generation since 1983, prior to that we had the M816. The boys would off preferred to transfer the crane from the 816 to the Mack. Can you post the tab data on the man and your previous wrecker and some more photos. shin up you can always come over for a holiday

Here is our current Mack R600 (1983) with new recovery system and an ASLAV recovery vehicle.

We have the Mack R600 with Holmes crane 6+6 and there is the Tatra RV-20 SAS, Oshkosh have built a couple of overs. The Tatra has a 4 seat capacity which in my way of thinking is required as there is always the driver of the over vehicle to recover most of the time. The MAN SV ® looks on paper the better vehicle but how are all the electronics holding up. What improvements would you make if you could?

In 1927 Glenburne station Conbanaine Victoria, built new shearers quarters and kitchen. On the 7th of February 2009 (Black Saturday) the 82 years of history went up in smoke. This is the shearers side were many a tale tail was told and a few cans were drunk . The cooks side with a slow combustion stove. On the 27th 0f April 2009 the chimney was donated and moved to my place were after a lot of cleaning of bricks I have rebuilt a fire place worthy of more tall story’s and a few more cans

Out of the 2 current in service recovery vehicles which one is the better as in more user friendly? The crane on the MAN has a better capacity but HEMTT has room for stores. to operate the hemtt is a 2 man job, some tasks 3 men. What was the recovery trailer that came with the MAN.

We have cut ours up as well to make this The old M113 was very user friendly, easy to drive and easy to maintain.

Thanks for the picks especially the Oshkosh HET 1070F, is there any word why one fell over the over month on what looked like a good road?.