Photos of Salamander mark 6, with 5000 g.p.m. monitors

[Mark Ellis]

I'm trying to record all the Alvis Salamander / Pyrene mark 6 crash tender, which went through the modification from 2500 g.p.m. monitor to the larger 2500/5000 g.p.m. monitors.

All the 26 AG registration were fitted with the 2500/5000 g.p.m. monitors at manufacture, so they're all big monitor, mark 6 C.

So far I have photos proving that the following were modified

1 23 AG 61   03 AG 47 2 23 AG 63   03 AG 48 3 23 AG 71   03 AG 76 4 23 AG 75   03 AG 83 5 23 AG 76   03 AG 84 6 23 AG 82   03 AG 86 7 23 AG 92   03 AG 87 8 23 AG 94

If you have any clear photos, then I'd appreciate seeing them.

I have these, but no idea what the RAF reg numbers are, or where the vehicles are. I've emailed the Tank museum for the green one below.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited June 12 by Mark Ellis

[10FM68]

Your top photo - the one without the ERM - looks very much like this one (note sticker in the windscreen and missing door handle trim) which is in preservation - the photo came from the RAF Fire Service Museum, I think.  It is sporting the ERM 73AG90 and I suspect that is a mistake as your list has none with 73AGNN.  Could it be 23AG90?  The number plate doesn't look original or standard.

Edited June 12 by 10FM68

[Mark Ellis]

53 minutes ago, 10FM68 said:

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Your top photo - the one without the ERM - looks very much like this one (note sticker in the windscreen and missing door handle trim) which is in preservation - the photo came from the RAF Fire Service Museum, I think.  It is sporting the ERM 73AG90 and I suspect that is a mistake as your list has none with 73AGNN.  Could it be 23AG90?  The number plate doesn't look original or standard.

This image possibly helps to solve the mystery. It has the same white sign in the window, talking about the RAF Alvis mark 6 Crash vehicle.

And it probably is 23 AG 90, but definitely a 23 AG by the Secondary extinguishment medium being on a hose reel. 

And from the rear, at the former museum

The problem with military vehicles in private ownership. including museums, is that you don't what they've changed over - and that includes the water monitor.

 

This one is showing Registration 26 AG 70, but has the small monitor, and has the secondary medium as hose reels - rather than flaked hoses. So it's clearly actually a 23 AG, but which one - and was the monitor swapped over

It's all good fun

I'll ask on their Facebook group  

 

 

 

[David Herbert]

I think that '73AG90' is certainly the same vehicle as the un-numbered one in the first post. There are three distinct areas of damage on the front bumper and also the front RH corner of the centre roof section is slightly bent away from the body side. With the windscreen sticker and missing door handle trim I don't think there is any doubt.

I expect most people here know, but for those that don't, the post war style numbers are actually a four digit number with the two letters placed in the middle. So the next available number after 09AB99 would be 10AB00 and the next 10AB01 etc. The numbers were allocated in blocks against orders, some vehicle types had the chassis or hull numbers directly linked to registration numbers (Eg. FV430 range) but many didn't. Not all blocks of numbers were used. The letters were primarily in date of allocation order but there were many exceptions like RAF vehicles had first letter A and renumbered WW2 vehicles had first letter Z.

David

Edited June 13 by David Herbert
Added second paragraph

[10FM68]

26AG70 has certainly had a new number plate since it has been in civilian hands.  It's not a 100% rule, but, pretty much: military vehicle number plates, although black and silver, don't have the silver band round the edges of the plate.  You see it everywhere on restored vehicles, unfortunately.  All it needs is a bit of black paint and the problem goes away!  There are exceptions, of course - where a number plate has been damaged and the unit has gone for a new one on local purchase - you used to see that quite a bit on vehicles in Germany - where the font is different because they have used the local German supplier (the '4' is the usual giveaway),  the plate will also be black and white, stamped, in the style of German civilian plates, but with the colours reversed - just like BFG plates, in fact.  It is interesting, also, to see RAF vehicles which would never have strayed far from the air station to sport bridge circles.  Very smart, but probably not of great use.

[wally dugan]

l never have been interested in RAF vehicles but my list shows 27 AG 77 TO 27 AG 96 were  BEDFORD PYRENE MK8 4X4 RLHZ3