paul connor Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 Can anyone with the Mitchelin XZL tyres, as fitted to Land Rover Wolf and also Snatch, check their sidewalls for me if they get a chance? I am hoping that they have a "M+S" marking on the sidewalls, to denote mud and snow. Thanks in advance Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Citroman Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 I am sorry, on the Michelin site it says M+S "no".. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul connor Posted July 10, 2023 Author Share Posted July 10, 2023 Thanks Citroman. That's where the confusion arises as other pages selling the tyres in Germany state "M+S". I was hoping someone with a Wolf/Snatch/WMIK outside could have a check on the actual tyre for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruxy Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 I have a new XZL on a rim - I can check tomorrow but know it does not state M&S The XZL evolved from the Michelin 4X4 O/R (off road) For Defender the above were made in two sizes :- 7.00 R 16 C4X4 O/R XZL TL 108N 7.50 R 16 C4X4 O/R XZL TL 108N They had a supple casing allowing low pressure operation (down to 15 psi) but at reduced speed , they had extra tripple ribbed sidewall protectors. Mud rock / loose surfaces , grip on steep banks and slopes - intended for severe site conditions - construction sites /OCCS/ quarries. The C included in the nomenclature woul be for Commercial (heavy - they had a high steel wire content). If you wanted all that & also M&S on a Defender 90" , arguably better than any Michelin 205R16 , that was a tyre made by Semperit (Austria) called "High-Grip" M&S (reinforced) , IIRC they were used on the original Merceded G Wagen. reinforced = more or less C (commercial) spec. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fv1609 Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 On my Wolf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul connor Posted July 11, 2023 Author Share Posted July 11, 2023 Perfect thank you Clive (FV1609). At least I now know they do have M+S on the sidewalls, that's really helpful. Now I can be sure running them here in winter is, for now, legal as an all seasons tyre. Even the Mitchelin website doesn't state this, that's why I wanted a literal image. Perfect. Thanks Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruxy Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 Michelin actualy class XZL as 'Summer' , most Continental countries demand a 3PMSF marked tyre for winter fitment , in E terms M+S now actually meets s.f.a. XZL actually has no small blocks with fine sipes that are needed on snow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul connor Posted July 11, 2023 Author Share Posted July 11, 2023 (edited) They are legal in Germany until September 2024, which mitigates changing tyres until then. So my question is solved for now. Germany currently regard a tyre as all seasons with M+S on the sidewall prior to the three peaks snowflake coming in at the end of 2024. Thankfully Clive, once again, provided first hand data to support my query proving XZLs do have M+S stamped on the sidewalls, so all boxes ticked. Case closed. Thanks everyone Edited July 11, 2023 by paul connor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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