BravoFoxtrot Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 I was at the Newark Aeroboot yesterday and picked up several nice items. I bought a very sticky steel box - which we have cleaned a little. It appears to have army green paint - overpainted grey then later ( possibly) a white/red cross added and some yellow and white spots as well as welding splatter. The box itself has a part number 1184/A and was made by FM Co in 1941 The closing clip has a part number EL12164 and was also made by FM Co in 41. The strap retaining clip has a part number such as L7 .. 8 Does anyone recognize it and know where it goes and if specific in which vehicle.? I won't say what it was sold as until it is clear what it actually is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BravoFoxtrot Posted July 4, 2021 Author Share Posted July 4, 2021 I have seen on a Canadian site Universal carrier smoke box using the same catch TL12164 but this is a smaller box.. The part number looks similar to Universal carriers as does the green paint. Is FMCo - Ford Motor Company ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Herbert Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 TL part numbers relate to British built light tanks and carriers. Ford didn't build light tanks so this is a carrier part. David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BravoFoxtrot Posted July 4, 2021 Author Share Posted July 4, 2021 Thank you David. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BravoFoxtrot Posted July 10, 2021 Author Share Posted July 10, 2021 Ok I was Ok with Universal Carrier as it was painted green. I have spent all week looking at UC boxes and none fit. Today I electro de rusted it and the green has come off and it was painted grey underneath. I was told it was Churchill when I bought it. The maker is FM Co. and dated 41. Which may not be Ford and may be another maker ? Thank you for considering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Barrell Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 FM Co is Ford Motor Company. TL1184A is a bren ammunition box for a Universal Carrier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BravoFoxtrot Posted July 10, 2021 Author Share Posted July 10, 2021 Thank you- sorry scientist so always confirming everything. Much appreciate for all your help. Bran Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BravoFoxtrot Posted July 12, 2021 Author Share Posted July 12, 2021 Can I ask one final question that may be obvious to you all- so I apologise if it is a stupid one.. Ford UK made the Universal Carrier at Dagenham - I assume from late 30's.onwards/ Ford of Canada made the Universal Carrier in Canada production starting in 1941. Ford US made the T16 with production started in 43. From the stamped FMCO 41 can anyone say if it was made at Dagenham or in Canada ? Thank you for your patience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REME 245 Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 The Part Number. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BravoFoxtrot Posted July 12, 2021 Author Share Posted July 12, 2021 Sorry I do not understand the box lid has 1148/A as part number and the catch has TL12164. I am more used to aircraft parts where I can access the full parts list so this is new to me.\ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Barrell Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 Canadian made parts usually were prefixed CTL so I would say Dagenham, though the box might have been made elsewhere as Dagenham was likely the assembly plant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BravoFoxtrot Posted July 12, 2021 Author Share Posted July 12, 2021 Thank you Adrian. Avro Lancasters made in Canada have a VA inspectors stamps for Victory Aircraft. Those made in UK were inspector stamped R3 ( or RY for Yeadon) so I had hoped there was a similar differentiation. Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Barrell Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 (edited) This is from the British parts list. Edited July 12, 2021 by Adrian Barrell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Barrell Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 Bear in mind the parts list was to enable the ordering of parts by the user so anything not available seperately didn't usually list the part number. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BravoFoxtrot Posted July 12, 2021 Author Share Posted July 12, 2021 Excellent. Thank you Adrian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Barrell Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 This is the page from the Canadian parts list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BravoFoxtrot Posted July 13, 2021 Author Share Posted July 13, 2021 thank you Adrian. not CTL so not Canadian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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