Baerdus Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 Hello together, two weeks ago i had bought a british trailer for a new restauration project. I´m not sure which type it is in detail and if it is a ww2 trailer: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cordenj Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 Hi, Yes a British 10cwt Lightweight trailer. A No1 MkII. Looks like a very good project and eminently restorable. The number stamped on the chassis spine is a Post-war registration. May-be added later in its life as the basic trailer is identical to WWII versions, so well might be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wally dugan Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 JAGUAR TRAILER half ton lightweight cargo in the post war listing of numbers O0 YK 01 to 30 YK 40 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerdus Posted April 22, 2021 Author Share Posted April 22, 2021 Hello cordenj, Hello wally dugan, thanks for your posts and your informations. I´m sorry for the few words in the first post (it´s my first topic and i have to try how it works) and please excuse my unperfect english. => Does that mean that if the trailer is registered in the post-war listing, the date of manufacturing is definitly after the war? Meanwhile i have organized the Key-card Infos of it, but i´m not sure what the codes really means and i couldn´t find a clear date of manufacturing. The first number (I estimate the first unit) is 11845 , then it was disposed 1963 to BAOR CR 6212185 to the location S.8055 May somebody can explain me the meanings of the figures? Thanks (I found out that BAOR means British Army of the Rhine) Some words to the history of the trailer: I bought it from a farmer near Verden (close to Bremen), that told me that the trailer formerly was in use by the british army for a field kitchen. He cut away the rear section and welded on a ramp to transport pigs with it. During his use the complete inner floor is rotten and now missing, so i have to rebuild it. More pictures are following... Thanks and Best regards Jürgen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wally dugan Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 JURGEN your trailer was used in ww2 and had a identity number up to 1949 of X 6212185 after that date it was given a new identity number of 01 YK 60 S8055 IS the contract number for this type of trailer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wally dugan Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 JURGEN your trailer was used in ww2 and had a identity number up to 1949 of X 6212185 after that date it was given a new identity number of 01 YK 60 S8055 IS the contract number for this type of trailer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wally dugan Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 JURGEN your trailer was used in ww2 and had a identity number up to 1949 of X 6212185 after that date it was given a new identity number of 01 YK 60 S8055 IS the contract number for this type of trailer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cordenj Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 Evening Jurgen, The key card is interesting. If I'm reading it correctly your trailer was from Contract number: S8055 and had the previous serial number 6212185. It would have been marked up as X6212185. I'm sure is was built and used in WWII. Have a look at one of my trailers to see what I mean re the numbers: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cordenj Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 Also. Contract 8055 was the last contract for the "10 Cwt. 2-Wheeled, Lightweight, G.S.,No. 1, Mk. 2" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Prof Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 Hi Jürgen. Contract S 8055 was for trailers numbered X6210183 to X6225182. These were built in Coventry (Lockhurst Lane, I think), from 1944 onwards. The company making them was originally called Swallow Sidecars. They changed their name to SS Cars prewar, and this is the make on the dataplate. For obvious reasons, they changed their name again after the war to Jaguar, who are still making cars today. My SSCars trailer is from the same contract, and is X6217217. Best Regards, Adrian 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Prof Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 Hi All, It might already be known, but using the information on Jürgen's and my Keycards, plus other information, it is evident that, at least for this contract, SS Cars numbered their chassis in order, so adding 6200340 to the chassis number gives the X number (or taking it away from the X number gives the chassis number). Best Regards, Adrian 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon king Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 They (SSC) used a similar system to correlate census numbers and chassis numbers for the 10 cwt GS wooden bodied trailers as well 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerdus Posted April 25, 2021 Author Share Posted April 25, 2021 Hello together, thank you all for your replys and the explanations, that are good news to understand the keycard and the confirmation that it is a ww2 trailer. Yesterday I was busy and have disassembled the trailer, so that it doesn´t need so much space to store. I made a astonishing discovery on my rusty data plate (i thought that there was no figures stamped in and nothing readable left) but in the sunlight i saw a figure shining and so i cleaned it again. Now I can confirme the informations of the keycard, because nearly all the figures until the first #5 were readable . Some impressions: Before disassembling: a litte bit of work is waiting ...sequel follows ... P.S: Adrian, may you have the spare parts list in .pdf for me ? Thanks Regards Jürgen 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Prof Posted April 26, 2021 Share Posted April 26, 2021 Hi Jürgen, I copied the spare parts list into .pdf, and sent it to you this morning by private messaging here. Best Regards, Adrian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerdus Posted April 26, 2021 Author Share Posted April 26, 2021 Hello Adrian, thanks for your efforts. The list has arrived and so i have something to study the next days during further disassembling... Best Regards Jürgen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radek Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 any info for you and picture and drawings of my original wooden floor. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerdus Posted May 20, 2021 Author Share Posted May 20, 2021 Hello Radek, thanks for your post and the precious informations about the floor. I think it will still last a few days until i´m ready to build up the floor ;-). Do i understand it right that it rests on the middle frame tube and the side angle irons (that are welded on the side panels)? May you please can tell me the dimensions of the angle irons (on which the floor rests)? Are they also 1,5mm thick? Thank you At the moment i´m working at the brakes and i´m looking to get some spare parts: After years of use the seal rings are hardened so the grease got onto the brake liners. The Timken bearings are no problem to get (in germany), so if anyone needs it, here are the numbers: Inner-bearing: # 14125 / 14276 Outer-bearing: # 09074 / 09196 But it´s difficult to get the following parts: new seal rings (outside sealing): original wheel-studs and wheel nuts (i need 4 studs and 5 nuts) new rubber bellows May anybody can tell me if and where it´s possible to get them? Are the brake liners (Girling 3322 / New Hudson GB 3322) still in use by civilin cars (maybe like Austin, etc.) and may there exist any comparative numbers? Thanks In the meantime the electrolytic rust removal works: Best Regards Jürgen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radek Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 picture from the net Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon king Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 (edited) Brake linkage bellows are available from Paul Beck Vintage Car Spares near Malvern ref 7W-2205 Brake Dust Cover Seem to recall that the external wipe seals could be found at one of the one marque classic car spares dealers although can’t for the life of me remember which one. I just changed to an internal wipe seal instead after polishing up the surface Edited May 21, 2021 by simon king Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerdus Posted May 23, 2021 Author Share Posted May 23, 2021 Hello Simon, Hello Radek, thanks for your reply’s, I will try to get the parts from the recommended shop. About the angle irons from the floor (which are welded on the side panels): I meant the dimensions and the thickness of the material of the L-shaped iron, because I have to rebuild it. There is nothing left in my trailer, I assume that the thickness is approximately 1,5mm. Kind Regards Jürgen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Radek Posted May 29, 2021 Share Posted May 29, 2021 On 5/23/2021 at 10:27 AM, Baerdus said: Hello Simon, Hello Radek, thanks for your reply’s, I will try to get the parts from the recommended shop. About the angle irons from the floor (which are welded on the side panels): I meant the dimensions and the thickness of the material of the L-shaped iron, because I have to rebuild it. There is nothing left in my trailer, I assume that the thickness is approximately 1,5mm. Kind Regards Jürgen L profile 80x25mm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerdus Posted June 1, 2021 Author Share Posted June 1, 2021 Hello Radek, thanks für your effort. Kind Regards Jürgen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerdus Posted January 8, 2022 Author Share Posted January 8, 2022 Hello together, .. the project is still alive .. Over the past few months I´ve been able to move forward with some things like sandblasting the attachment parts, (so maybe it is of interest that the leaf springs were made by William E Cary LTD in Manchester) ... Making the wooden floor ... ... starting the body work ... The sheet metal parts for the body were delivered... ... so that suitable spare parts could be made ... ... and the body work could begin .. The next goal is to finish the bodywork by spring .. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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