ferretfixer Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 I wonder is there anywhere I can buy a barrel with out the rest of the Gpmg? ILLEGAL at this moment in time!!!! However.........It's in the pipeline to Pass Deact Barrels at London in the future (DONT know when!) Birmingham has already done it & opened the door. Only a matter of time I guess?............. Brens have been done already & ZB26's. Once London fall in line, ANY Barrel can in THEORY be passed when deactivated to Spec & then Certified. Trying to get a definative answer from the london Proof master is like trying to get Petrol Tax reduced by the Goverment!...:mad: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlienFTM Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 TOTALY WRONG shape Flash hider for the variant you need Im afraid.It SHOULD have a 'Cone' Shaped version for the L37, which was what was utilised in the Ferret & Fox. That sounds right to me. I suspect L37 was also fitted to Scimitar while L43 was fitted to Scorpion. I always wondered why two so-similar vehicles fitted different models of GPMG. Edit: and istr the L43 also had a cone-shaped flash hider. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferretfixer Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 That sounds right to me. I suspect L37 was also fitted to Scimitar while L43 was fitted to Scorpion. I always wondered why two so-similar vehicles fitted different models of GPMG. Edit: and istr the L43 also had a cone-shaped flash hider. Alien, It was to do with Ballistic range differencials. The L37 had a Three position Gas Regulator. The L43 had a FIXED version. That adjusted itself with heat expansion. The L43 had a REMOVABLE Flash hider held in place with a thin circlip. It LOOKED almost identical to the L7A2 LMG Ground role variant. but was DIFFERENT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john fox Posted April 2, 2012 Share Posted April 2, 2012 I have a deac L37 mounted in my Ferret - the mounting is currently in peices as it is awaiting derusting - will post pictures later if still interested it would be rare to get a deac less than £2,000 at the moment and very rare to find an L37 rather than the L7 infantry version Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catch 22 LBDR Posted April 2, 2012 Author Share Posted April 2, 2012 Absolutely, post the pics on hear, will prob go down the road of a replica as its so much cheaper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catch 22 LBDR Posted June 8, 2012 Author Share Posted June 8, 2012 It seams that the Browing gun mount is just as hard to get as the Gpmg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
griff66 Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 all ferret gun mounts are difficult to get be it gpmg, 30 cal , or 303/ 7.62 lmg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiketheBike Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 I got my NOS GPMG mount from Bannisters...and VERY reasonable price from what I remember. Also got the shell catcher at same time...he may well still have some. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
griff66 Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 he might, u try finding a 7.62 lmg mount for a mk1/2, gpmg mounts might be easier to find as bit more current and u have mount but gun is still 2500 pounds ish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catch 22 LBDR Posted June 8, 2012 Author Share Posted June 8, 2012 That was kinda my point. It might be easer and cheaper to change the mount to the Browing and fit a 30 cal instead of a GPMP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferrettkitt Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 he might, u try finding a 7.62 lmg mount for a mk1/2, gpmg mounts might be easier to find as bit more current and u have mount but gun is still 2500 pounds ish Did you have wander round the stalls at Beltring last year (I'm presuming you did) someone was selling replica metal GPMG's which looked extremely good and for good money as well. Pity I lost the flyer I wanted two but that went for a burton with the flyer:mad: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
griff66 Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 did we last year must have walked ten miles a day! with my mk1/2 would be quite happy with a mint 500 pound 7.62 lmg! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catch 22 LBDR Posted June 13, 2012 Author Share Posted June 13, 2012 Haven't bean to War and Peace for a few years now, the Irish ferry hop makes the trip quite costly. But I am seriously considering a nice replica 7.62 for my ferret, Andy. I can (I think) get a 30cal at the right price so a nice cheep mount for it could be the way to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferrettkitt Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 Haven't bean to War and Peace for a few years now, the Irish ferry hop makes the trip quite costly. But I am seriously considering a nice replica 7.62 for my ferret, Andy. I can (I think) get a 30cal at the right price so a nice cheep mount for it could be the way to go. Hopefully I can find the company that makes the replica GPMG's at War and Peace this year. Browning mounts aren't cheap it tends to be the GPMG mounts that are cheaper than the Browning turret mounts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catch 22 LBDR Posted July 1, 2012 Author Share Posted July 1, 2012 Yes, this is the Correct shape of flash hider that you need. Note, NO foresite Block, which is CORRECT for a turret mounted/Internaly Mounted GPMG Variant.Notice also, that the gas regulator know is a different shape to the Ground role (LMG) variant. it is ALSO fitted with a Buffer Housing, rather than a Butt assembly used in the ground role. As I Mentioned previously. Was the hand grip and trigger housing removed to fit it into the gun mount?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catch 22 LBDR Posted July 1, 2012 Author Share Posted July 1, 2012 Andy, I think these are the guy's you saw at War&Peace. http://www.military-muckabouts.webs.com/ I sent them an email to find out if they do the l37 variant for the turret. will post up what they say. In the meantime I would love to see some pic's of how the GPMG fits into the mount. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferrettkitt Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 Andy, I think these are the guy's you saw at War&Peace. http://www.military-muckabouts.webs.com/I sent them an email to find out if they do the l37 variant for the turret. will post up what they say. In the meantime I would love to see some pic's of how the GPMG fits into the mount. Sweet I'll be looking them up at W&P thanks for finding the link :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catch 22 LBDR Posted July 1, 2012 Author Share Posted July 1, 2012 Hear are a few pics of Browning's fitted in Ferret's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catch 22 LBDR Posted July 2, 2012 Author Share Posted July 2, 2012 Does anyone have any pic's or drawings of the buffer housing on the back of the GPMG when fitted in its mount, also was the trigger housing removed when being fitted?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferretfixer Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 Does anyone have any pic's or drawings of the buffer housing on the back of the GPMG when fitted in its mount, also was the trigger housing removed when being fitted?? The Trigger Housing is NOT removed when fitting in a Ferret. I think you MAY be refering to the L8 Variant, which had a differnt trigger mech. This was for the Chieften, a ranging co-axilly mounted gun. The scorpion had a solinoid operated mech, & differnt barrel as well. That variant was dedicated to the Scorpion ONLY. Basicaly, the L37 is a standard GPMG body, barrel has a Coned Flash Hider, Different Gas adjusting knob & a Buffer housing rather than a Butt assembly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catch 22 LBDR Posted July 3, 2012 Author Share Posted July 3, 2012 Thanks Guys. I sent an e-mail to Military muckabouts, They have said they can make a replica for me but need pictures to go off, I sent them a good pic of the barrel but I need one of the Buffer Housing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferrettkitt Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 Thanks Guys. I sent an e-mail to Military muckabouts, They have said they can make a replica for me but need pictures to go off, I sent them a good pic of the barrel but I need one of the Buffer Housing. Let me know if you get anywhere with it maybe you could ask if anyone else wants a GPMG for the turret lower the price bulk buy? I would be up for one if I'm really flush maybe two :-D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlienFTM Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 This was for the Chieften, a ranging co-axilly mounted gun. The GPMG was a coaxially mounted gun, but was simply an anti-infantry / soft-skin weapon: ranging was performed using bursts of three (solenoid controlled) from the .5" Browning which was ballistically similar in flight to the main gun. However trace burn-out on the five-oh was a lot shorter than the ranges you wanted from the 120, so they got Barr and Stroud to design the laser rangefinder. I don't know (was never a Chieftain gunner) what range was trace burn-out on the five-oh; trace burn-out on the GPMG was 1100m (if the trace ignited in a hot barrel, it was 900m). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferretfixer Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 (edited) That sounds right to me. I suspect L37 was also fitted to Scimitar while L43 was fitted to Scorpion. I always wondered why two so-similar vehicles fitted different models of GPMG. Edit: and istr the L43 also had a cone-shaped flash hider. EARLY L37 had a cone shaped flash hider. Later it became paralell as in the supplied photo. The L43 for scorp had a NORMAL locking Flash Eliminator that LOOKED the same as the L7A2 Ground role gun. It wasnt quite the same. It screwed on by hand & had NO twin flats on the side for a spanner to tighten it. It had a small countersunk hole in the side, & was retained on the barrel with a spring clip. It had to unscrewed to enter the mantlet from the inside up to the halfway point on it's barrel bearing. Was also solinoid fired. Edited July 4, 2012 by ferretfixer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferrettkitt Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 I have a deac L37 mounted in my Ferret - the mounting is currently in peices as it is awaiting derusting - will post pictures later if still interested it would be rare to get a deac less than £2,000 at the moment and very rare to find an L37 rather than the L7 infantry version I know this is a bit late did you ever manage to take any pictures of the L37 version of the GPMG? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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