Brooky

Dave You did indeed and many thanks for that I have been in touch with my contact in the DVLA today regarding our "new man on the inside" so will be interesting to see the response. As I keep saying there should be no problems with registering any vehicle providing you give them the details and the paperwork is in order then everything should be OK They follow a process and if everthing is OK then out pops a V5 and a reg number Interesting comment about insurance earlier, I have double checked and the DVLA request a copy of the insurance, so I would send it!!!

To be honest I am not bothered either way. The MVT verification service is recognised by the DVLA as having a robust system for verification. As I said in an earlier post we very rarely y have issues. Its the same old story, when something goes wrong blame the D VLA. In my experience if the applicant follows the system and provides the correct paperwork the system works We only see the brick bats on here when there is problem and we rarely see praise when it all goes right I cannot of course speak for other clubs authorised to carry out verifications on our vehicles. So I am not really concerned about the news because as far as I am concerned its business as usual.

If you never ask you never get!!!!

Slightly abrupt I have to say!! My reason for asking was that I am the MVT Verification Officer and that my request was quite valid as it will enable me to help the members of the MVT get their vehicles registered Having said that there are very few (probably 2-3 in the couple of hundred verifications that I have done over the past two years) that have been returned because the verification letter or the details included in it from the MVT was insufficient or the incorrect completion of the V55/5 We (the MVT) have also built relationships within the DVLA to enable Jeep owners whose vehicles were registered post 1960 to change date of manufacture to take advantage of the MOT exemption without the evidence laid out in the regulations I also find it interesting that this person will research obscure vehicles, this has always been part of the verification/inspection process we (MVT) undertake Sounds as if my role is redundant!!! Chris Brook MVT Verification Officer

Any chance of sending me a PM with the contact details I am sure though the DVLA will still need a verification letter from an approved club and the applicant to follow the correct V55/5 process

Nice!!!!! Enjoy Normandy!

Dont think so Listed in The Green Machine as in service post AFs with Durham then to Flintshire 8/73 To Clwyd/Rhyl 1974 and was at Mold in 1992 Just as original poster said Sure I have a picture of it in service somwhere

Very possibly, which is what I alluded to in a previous post A tachograph needs to be fitted if the vehicle comes under the EU rules for record keeping of drivers hours If the vehicle is private then I suspect it is not in scope for EU drivers hours regs and therefore does not need a tachograph fitted

Chances are you would have to fit a digital tacho, dont know whether you can still get analogue ones I will admit I was wrong in a previous post about it being exempt Have had another look at the rules and cant see a way out for aDAF 4 tonner

Soon as you get it back let me have the details and we will get an inspection sorted

If the vehicle is used privately and not in conjunction with a trade or business then no tacho is required as there is no need to record drivers hours

The MVT do not charge for verification, members get three free a year One of the benefits of membership!! The only cost involved is 4 stamps and potentially the inspector can claim mileage The club certainly does not profit , come to think of it neither do I (I spend on average 4-5 hours a week on the task)

All the above are not really in the scope of registering a vehicle for the first time in the UK but are to do with the NOVA scheme Get that right and duty paid (or not) and the HMRC informed and when you present the dating certificate etc you get a registration number and a V5

I do wish people would read and understand my previous posts We are talking about a vehicle from Belgium to the UK not the other way round The rules are the rules and we cannot change them only follow them Follow the rules and everything is OK, you get a vehicle registered in the UK and are able to enjoy it with the minimum of fuss!!! Dont follow them and you have a problem!!!! I have said enough on the matter.........................if you want to do your own thing then fine.......................but dont come bleating on here when it all goes to r*t s**t

NO you dont!!!!!!!!!! As I keep banging on the process is simple, You need to follow the process outlined in my previous posts (You must make sure though that YOU make the NOVA declaration...............this cannot be done by anybody else) If you read my reply to the post re VOSA inspection you will see the detail is completely different from getting a first registration, the vehicle in question is already registered. Trust me if you follow the advice given you WILL get the vehicle registered in the UK and if you do it in a timely manner you will go to the ball.....................well Normandy anyway!!!!!!

Bit out of scope for the verification service here If you are trying to retain the original registration number but the vehicle is not on the DVLA database then the V765 scheme would be used However in your case as you have the V5c therefore the vehicle must be on the database. I suppose that the DVLA wish to confirm the reg number is applicable to the vehicle make recorded and the chassis number matches that on the V5 There are some funny goings on going on with vehicles and identities!!! As I say seems out of scope for a club type verification

The MVT have the authority (after following a standard process) to issue a dating letter that is accepted as evidence for an age related plate, historic vehicle taxation class It does not constitute any form of mechanical or roadworthiness inspection (although the rules call for the vehicle to be resonably complete) The fact that if the date of manufacture is pre 1960 then that vehicle will fall (by default) into the exemption from MOT (or test and plate) and the rules for that will need to be followed (V12/V112G) If it is post 1960 then the testing rules will apply The roadworthiness of a vehicle is and always has been the responsiblity of the owner and the user

Tony Thanks.................................but there is NO requirement for an MOT ( if the vehicle is exempt i.e. pre 1960) at first registration Again made fairly clear in the letter I attached to a post (the contents of which were lifted direct from the DVLA website) You do need to produce a V112 (vehicles less than 3500kgs laden) or V112G (vehicles over 3500kgs laden) Claim for exemption when applying for first registration Sorry if it came over as "touchy" tone but there is so much mis information on this world wide web that it is important that the source of information is disclosed and people dont go down the wrong route As I say the information in the letter was lifted direct from the DVLA website so can (I think) be classed as reliable

Says that in the letter!!! A vehicle can be insured on its chassis number

The rules and process are very simple You need a dating certificate from a club (on the DVLA list of recognised clubs) whose area of interest is relevant to the vehicle (MVT or IMPS in this case) They will inspect the vehicle and issue a dating certificate You return this with a completed V55/5 and some evidence of identity (again listed on the letter from the MVT or on the DVLa website) and the fee The DVLA will return you a V5 and a registration number As I say very simple I do not know what process is involved with modern vehicles and really dont care!! All I am interested in is verifying military vehicles so the owners can enjoy them People have trouble with the DVLA because they dont give the DVLA the information they require i.e. The Belgian V5 will not be suitable as the rules say the dating cetrtificate must come from a club on the DVLA list I have attached the letter I send with the dating certificate and as I say it seems to work (This year so far I have issued 14 dating certs with 7 in progress) Applicant Letter Normal Updated.doc

You will need a dating certificate from a recognised club. That is the ONLY evidence the DVLA will recognise for dating purposes at first registration. When did you try to get a dating cert for a Jeep through the MVT? As I am the verification officer (and have been for two years) for the MVT I take these comments seriously We quote that it can take three months from application to certificate being issued, however in most cases provided the documentation supplied by the owner is in order it will be considerably less (the record at the moment is a week) The simple reason for that is we rely on volunteers both in the back office (me!) and from our inspectors. In theory if you get the application in asap there shouldnt be a problem, the DVLA at the moment seem to be taking 10-14 days to return a V5 and registration number

There is NO requirement for an MOT before first registration. I should be interested to know where your understanding came from?

Not too sure whether you can drive it on UK roads with the Belgian plates on it However You must notify HMRC of its arrival in the UK under the NOVA scheme (the DVLA will not register it unless this has been done) It can be done online I believe (Do not rely on people telling you that as its come from an EU country you dont have to do this) You will then need to apply to a club recognised by the DVLA (MVT or IMPS) to issue a dating certificate The MVT will send an inspector out to look at the vehicle and check chassis numbers etc (NOT the DVLA) Once you have this you complete a form V55/5 (again you have to order this from the DVLA as it is a two piece no carbon required document) and send that along with some identification evidence (outlined both on the DVLAwebsite and the letter that accompanies the dating cert from the MVT) to the DVLA and you will be issued with an age related registration number and a V5 The vehicle will NOT require an MOT to complete this (it is exempt MOT as it is pre 1960) Simples!!!!! If you have any other queries please PM me

Thanks for the feedback!!! Nice to know the system works!!

Irrelevant really.........the vehicle was being tested it didnt meet the requirements as outlined in the appopriate regulations,therefore it failed. Still nothing to do with delays at theDVLA though