We run a 7 seat Hyundai Trajet as the family bus. Front wheel drive on Pirelli P6 tyres, 40 mpg and it takes us on and off wet grassy agricultural show fields with little fuss. We live in the middle of a series of very steep hills and last winter were only stopped once when some silly beggar couldn't make the hill in a van, but refused help to move it out of the road....:nut: we often have to wade streams in it too and has a reasonable ground clearance to do that. I've always had an old Land rover kicking about for the rough stuff, but recently bought an Isuzu trooper for very little money which performed well in the very deep snow. Plenty of torque for using higher gears and lower revs in the snow. I agree that driver experience is important too. We had loads of cars driven by younger people who haven't driven in snow and ice parked in trees, hedges and ditches all the way down our road...:blush: A session at an off road centre would benefit a lot of people for driving in snow I reckon.