Richard Farrant

Scott, That would be 34 Central Workshop, which was at Donnington.

Hi Montie, Here is a website link on one the oil companies in the UK showing that GL-4 still is an essential requirement in the market place. http://www.morrislubricants.co.uk/scripts/prodview.asp?idproduct=61

OK Scott, I was beginning to have doubts on my memory :undecided:

Hi Nic, Same oil as Ferret in the hubs and bevel boxes, and transfer box. Richard

Hi Scott, You had better check the hydraulic filler tank cap again, it should be OM13, unless there is something odd about your Saracen. OM13 is an ISO 10 hydraulic oil. It is used in the fluid flywheel as well. The gearbox has SAE30 engine oil in it. Bevel boxes, hubs and transfer box are a EP80w/90 or EP90 gear oil regards, Richard

Hoseman, You should be aware the military oil designation do not give SAE or specification numbers in general. OMD30 was a detergent engine oil, declare obsolete and replaced by OMD55 which is a 5w/30 diesel engine oil, only used in Artic conditions. I think there may be a mistake by Scott as it should have a plate on the filler with OM13. Saracens in general had OM13 in the hydraulics, but there were some very early ones with another grade. For interest, the OM13 is a hydraulic oil but not the common grade used in plant, it is an ISO 10 grade. regards, Richard

It looks like a 1930 2 ton FWD (see p.325 of Bart's prewar directory)

Lauren, Just wondering how this question linked with oil cans, then thinking about it, are you assuming that oil was supplied in these cans? They are actually part on the MT kit to go with vehicles and not a unit of supply, I would imagine the oil was supplied much as it is today in drums of around 5 gall (now 25 litres).

That's a point Ron, I will have to check out if the two caps are interchangeable. Although from memory the 2gall brass cap has a finer thread

Hi Ron, I recently saw some WW2 British WD 1 gall oil cans with the pressed steel caps as on Shell, Castrol, etc cans, so perhaps it was only Canada that made them of brass?

No, some British vehicles of the period had the round Wesco ones which pumped oil, the one in the photo only has a release button so you can drip oil out, it does not pump.

Oh, so I don't win a banana then :-(

Hi John, I notice a thread about the site being down on G503 forum, apparently it has been on and off all week.

Hi Ivor, Here is a photo of the can I have, it is stamped "RTS Ltd" and "1/2 pint". It came with an old WW2 military vehicle. I have forgotten to measure it though.

the Camel clue helped :embarrassed:

Ford U-50

When I worked in a REME workshop, they made one from substantial angle iron with a door at the side. It was large enough to get 1500-20 wheels in. Never ever recall having any blow in all the years I was there. Care must be taken to clean any rust or old paint from the locking ring groove before refitting and to make sure the ring is not stretched or damaged. Then ease the pressure up so the loose rim ring comes up to lock the locking ring in the groove.

Hi Ivor, I might have one, bear with me, if I can find it today, will send a photo.

Hi Simon, I do not have a Champ parts book here, but knowing the British books well, there should be an index of FV numbers in it. The FV number is in effect, the drawing number and was used in early parts lists for parts specific to that vehicle and proprietary parts were given their makers number. Not sure if the Champ part numbers were later codified in to NSN (NATO stock numbers). That explains the first line, second line is I am sure the Austin Motor Co. part number, then description and P P mean packed and preserved with a quantity of 1 in the package. Your parts book could be an Australian one and it will be interesting to see how the parts are listed, could you scan a page so we can see what numbers they list? regards, Richard

It was the Canadians that copied ours.......... and the Australians. They are a standard WD design. Don't forget CMP vehicles were built to British WD specifications.

Here you go, one from my QL. They made the same pattern in postwar years as well. If you find two, I could do with another one, any date, no bothered. regards Richard

Now you have shown us the data plate, all is clear, it is not the vehicle that Clive was thinking of, it is in fact the wireless bodied truck, with the box type body and door in centre of rear end. The PTO generator would be used when parked up for charging the batteries for the wireless installation. you are correct in thinking it does not work on the move. The transfer box has to have drive deselected to engage PTO.

Try Tim Hodgekiss; http://www.vintagemotorspares.com/phdi/p1.nsf/supppages/hodge?opendocument&part=2

Hi Alan, The SAE 50 oil in the transmission would be an Engine oil spec., it is not unusual to use engine oil in gearboxes. The Daimler armoured vehicles of WW2 used the same grade in their transfer boxes for example. There is a misconception regarding SAE grade numbers, there are actually two scales, one for engine oils and another for gear oils, as regards viscosity, the numbering does not run parallel. A 50 engine oil is equivalent in viscosity to a 90 gear oil. Hope that explains it. regards, Richard

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