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Why are these pictures sad?

I got my Stolly straight from Budge’s yard when they were first cast and it looked like it had been in storage since a base re-build in 1989. Split rim nuts were pained red but the wheel nuts were painted yellow, in fact all of the driver service / check items were painted yellow. These included all of the level plugs for engine, gearbox etc. In addition to the split rim nuts being painted red other items were painted red such as radiator drain plugs etc. I remember speaking to a REME mech. at the time and he stated it was common practice painting driver service items yellow and items they didn’t want the driver to touch red. When I got my Unimog 404 it was painted the same but opposite with all of the driver service items (level plugs etc.) painted red and the non driver (look in the manual first) items painted yellow. Don’t know if it was a official procedure or not but seamed like a logical idea.

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But not everyone is as honest as the good people on HMVF, the insurance company have to pay out third party claims if they have accepted the proposal form and taken the dosh, even if the driver is only 12 years old. Its common practice for those do-gooder solicitors to advise their scum of a client to get insurance even if they are not old enough to hold a licence. :argh: Sorry rant over

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You can use a pre 1960 vehicle to tow but if you are driving it on a car licence the towed vehicle has to be unladen, if you have the correct licence you can tow a laden vehicle but not for hire or reward if using Historic Tax

Yep remember the one, wasnt it done to class it as a Mobile Project Vehicle and driven on a car licence?

If you have taken out and paid for insurance, the insures have to honour third party claims even if you have lied through your teeth about which licence you have, but only third party claims. If the insurance company is being awkward about a claim you just report it to the Motor Insurers' Bureau MIB who has government backing to sort the claim. Historic Road Tax covers the following vehicles manufactured before 01/01/1973 a) Private/Light Goods – including buses used for voluntary, community or other non-profit making purposes i.e. a vehicle not required to have a Public Service Vehicle Licence. b) Motorcycles and Tricycles. c) Private HGV – but excluding vehicles designed for, or adapted for use for, the conveyance of goods or burden and put to a commercial use on a public road e.g. unladen HGV’s and HGV’s used for driver training/testing purposes. d) Special Vehicles – mobile cranes/pumps, road rollers, works trucks and digging machines (excluding showmen’s goods/showmen’s haulage vehicles). e) Haulage Vehicles – not used for haulage purposes. f) Special Concessionary – agricultural machines, mowing machines, snowploughs, gritting vehicles, electric vehicles and steam vehicles. You can carry a load so long as it is not for commercial use or you are driving a pre 1960 vehiecle over 3500kg on a B (car) licence. Yes you can tow a Historic taxed vehicle with another so long as the towing vehicle has a current MOT, unless it was manufactured before 01/01/1960 and the towed vehicle is unladen. Even if you have a recovery vehicle manufactured before 01/01/1973 you can only claim MOT exemption for recovery vehicles if it is taxed as such, if you want to tax it as Historic you have to MOT it.

No, not unless an approved brake connection point is available i.e.: (a) Approved by the manufacturer of the vehicle; (b) Fitted to the vehicle in the course of its construction or adaptation; and © Specially designed for use in the course of recovering disabled vehicles or vehicle-combinations in order to provide a means by which the braking system of the disabled vehicle of vehicle combination and can be safely and effectively controlled from the road recovery vehicle. Yes - if the vehicle you are towing is over 750kg Exact wording from the DVLA “A goods vehicle manufactured before 1 January 1960, used unladen and not drawing a laden trailer; Drivers must be aged 21 and have held a category B licence for at least 2 years.” Find the full document here: http://www.dvla.gov.uk/media/pdf/leaflets/inf52.pdf Weight has nothing to do with it or when you passed your test. However remember, where a recovery of a disabled vehicle or vehicle-combination is effected by using a drawbar or lift and-tow method, the road recovery vehicle must not carry or tow the disabled vehicle or vehicle combination any further than is reasonably necessary in order to clear any road obstructed by it and to facilitate the use of roads by other persons. “Reasonably necessary” usually means nearest point of repairs or to load onto transport. Most recovery firms tend to bend this rule from time to time.:nono: Other useful documents: http://www.dvla.gov.uk/media/pdf/leaflets/inf34.pdf - Historic Tax Explained http://www.dvla.gov.uk/media/pdf/forms/v112g.pdf Goods vehicle MOT exemption form – if your vehicle is on the list on page two you can use this form instead of an MOT cert when you tax your vehicle. Right click and save as

You have to put the milk in the fridge to stop it freezing! Left a bottle out last night at the barn and it’s froze solid; stuff in the fridge is fine.:coffee:

Yep :-D But didn't mean to offend

Well pardon me for trying to be helpful - next time I'll keep my gob shut

Meteor Servicing Manual here complements of Militant Graham http://www.aecmilitant.co.uk/downloads/meteormanual.pdf :-D Better to right click it and "save as"

Yep we have been here before, crops up every couple of months. EP oils that are GL 4 or below will not attack bronze / yellow metals, GL5 EP oils have high sulphur content and will attack yellow / bronze metals. :coffee:

The only stipulation they gave was the vehicle could not be heaver that 18 ton gross, which stuffs it for the Militant, but I’ve got the Stalwart and the Volvo covered. Let me know how you get on.

Neil had the same problem when I tried to renew my breakdown cover with Roadsure. Now Roadsure use Autohome Assistance for their breakdown cover, if you call them direct on 0800 371 280 you can take out the same cover direct with Autohome and its cheaper for the same level of cover than if you went via Roadsure. :-D

We are looking to start up a FV432 (K60) pack that has been standing for a very long time, this weekend. I seem to remember a procedure for priming the oil system using an external hand oil pump connected somewhere around the main engine oil filters. Can anyone remember how to do it and what’s involved? Also any other tips welcome. Ta

Yep you are right, a locomotive is not a HGV, or if we are being totally correct a LGV (large goods vehicle) But the SVA scheme only applies to cars or light passenger vehicles and Light Goods Vehicles manufactured after 31st March 2004 having a design gross weight more than 3,500kg but not more than 5,500kg. Both a light locomotive and a heavy locomotive fall outside of this scope. So to correct my post, both HGV’s and Locomotives are not covered by the SVA scheme. :-D

Mike I am not picking on you, on the whole I find the majority of your posts informative and interesting, however some of your posts I find negative and misleading, on rare occasions you make direct attacks on other forum members. This makes me unhappy and I am sure other members also, I am purely voicing my opinion.

HGV’s are not covered by the SVA scheme; any modifications are classed as a “Notifiable Alterations” quite easy to do using form VG10. However if you are modifying the braking system, then you have to provide all the calculations for your modifications. Another point of interest is, if a HGV is an insurance right-off it does not need to be inspected by VOSA before its put back on the road. We have some very complicated laws in this country. There is a Goods Vehicle National Type Approval (GVNTA) but currently it only applies to a small number of vehicles, this is for practical reasons because HGV’s are normally built in multi-stages with only the chassis-cab built by the original manufacturer who is the person who applies for type approval.

And what has it to do with this forum; using HMVF to drag your private arguments into the public domain is not what this place is about. :argh:

:coffee: Come on man make up your mind :rofl::rofl::rofl:

Just put some nice big 20" unimog rims on :cool2:

I think we are getting a bit confused here, no one suggested that a Stalwart could be used under STGO, it was suggested that it could be run as a Light Locomotive as defined in C&U Regulations, as the aforementioned Regulations specifies a maximum width for a Locomotive as 2.75 metres, therefore a Stalwart is within width when used in this mode. Any goods vehicle could be registered as a Locomotive so long as it is used as such and not used to carry a load, the load bed could always be used for ballast. Registration – Now we are really getting things confused here, when you register a vehicle you provide lots of information about the vehicle, however when you specify the Taxation Class this does not provide details about the Vehicle build, it specifies the “use” of the vehicle. For example a S26 Scammell could have a Taxation Class of, HGV, Private HGV or STGO, three different Taxation Classes for the same vehicle but being “Used” for a different purpose. Historic Tax – Even more confusion here, not sure where you get your date from, historic tax is an “option” for a vehicle “manufactured” before 1st January 1973, and is only an option for vehicles that are used in the following Taxation Classes. Private/Light Goods – including buses used for voluntary, community or other non-profit making purposes i.e. a vehicle not required to have a Public Service Vehicle Licence. Motorcycles and Tricycles. Private HGV – but excluding vehicles designed for, or adapted for use for, the conveyance of goods or burden and put to a commercial use on a public road e.g. unladen HGVs and HGVs used for driver training/testing purposes. Special Vehicles – mobile cranes/pumps, road rollers, works trucks and digging machines (excluding showmen’s goods/showmen’s haulage vehicles). Haulage Vehicles – not used for haulage purposes. Special Concessionary – agricultural machines, mowing machines, snowploughs, gritting vehicles, electric, vehicles and steam vehicles. Please note the use of the word “option”– Historic Tax is an option it is not compulsory. Now this is going to upset a few people on here – You will note that Recovery or STGO is not included in the above list. If you operate a vehicle as a Recovery Vehicle or under STGO you cannot opt for Historic Tax even if your vehicle was manufactured before 1st January 1973 and being used “not for hire or reward” You can use the Historic Tax option with Ex-Recovery vehicles but they can’t be used for recovery and are not exempt from MOT / Plating. You can use the Historic Tax option with a Heavy / Light Locomotive that is no wider than 2.75 metres as defined by the C&U regulation. But the Antar is 3.2 metres wide and this is over the maximum width for a Locomotive as defined by the C&U Regulations, therefore to use an Antar on the road it must be under STGO and if is used under STGO then you must Tax it as such and pay the revenant VED. If you run under STGO and Tax as Historic you are breaking the Law. Also remember that STGO is enable the movement of abnormal loads, transporting a Scammell to a show is not justification to run under STGO as it is not an abnormal load. Mike I cannot see how you can drive your Antar on the road to a show legally unless it is towing an abnormal load and is taxed as STGO :nono: