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no not yet but when it went on the lowloader to get to the fort that was scary as i coudn't see anything but sky as i went on,you need trust in anyone whos guiding you

just a small point and i know its being picky but the forties decade was 10 years not just 40 to 45 so why do people only think of 40 to 45 when they do a 40s event,as you may know landrovers appeared in 1948? just being picky i know

yep too many times!!!!!! :oops: :roll: :wink:

hear hear!

mines got to be east tilbury village in essex,blocked it for 2 hours, the buses were driving on the pavement to pass :roll:

neil(artistsrifles) i think you hit the nail on the head,what ever event the main theme is on as i feel this gives a representation of how these vehicles have progressed. a few of us were asked to attend operation ajax in october and went along and enjoyed the saturday greatly as we were elsewhere on the sunday and have been asked to reattend next year and put on a more comprehensive display.the event was ww2 themed so we didnt park in the ww2 camps but over to one side but never the less still helped the show. we weren't turned away eventhough we only had a couple of landrovers and spoke to people who had driven them and are now interested in other things,whatever its age if its green it will bring in the punters!!

looks like the muppets are out again!i think some of you should come down to the essex end of the country!you should of been out with us during this year, as a not very proactive postwar owner i was out almost every weekend staring from january all the way till now with my other postwar non proactive mv owners doing our bit organizing shows filling events promoting the so called mv hobby to the public,veterans and any and other organisations that wanted something green or a stand!we all go around with and dont turn away any vehicle what ever its age! so i suggest some people pull their heads out of the sand and get their own potato off their own shoulders(a chip is too small) and belt up! as i recall when it rained at the w&p peace show a couple of years ago and it was a jeep event no-one went into the arena because they didnt want to get wet! now thats taking the mick!my vehicles go out whatever the weather, if i say i'd do something, so i've been hot ,wet and cold! i know not all ww2 owners have the same narrowminded outlook as some so this rant isn't aimed at them and i do work well with them and will always bendover backwards to because they are like me MILITARY VEHICLE OWNERS! rant over!

now this could get rather heated! but i have to agree, we've held a few shows at coalhouse fort and never discriminated any vehicle as i see all military vehicles are the same even the oldest(horses!)it does seem to me that the major clubs do look down their noses at anyone who has a post war vehicle.some owners wouldn't even give you the time of day unless you had a jeep for instance,i feel that we are all doing the same thing ,that is keeping these vehicles alive for future generations!but you must remember that alot of post war vehicles were designed during or just after the war and were used with alot of ww2 vehicles during the fifties so seeing these vehicles together is not blasphemy! as for shows i would thought any show organiser would be greatful to any owner for bringing their vehicles as it means that the public will turn up wether their interested in ww2 or anything else!!!!

i think when it comes to re-enacting i think some people take the idea that all russian re-enactors must be communists,all germans are nazis, americans are the unfaulting heroes and the british were about somewhere.unfortunaly this is what some of the history books have led us to belive.in war things happen that no wished would,people are brainwashed into doing things that at any other time they would reel from in disgust but this is a fact of life.if you re-enact one part or side i feel this is a misrepentation of the history,these units existed and are apart of the whole,i feel that if you represent any unit you must as amark of respect to those you are portraying to be as accurate as possible but not to bring the politics back into it.if for example you had a jeep and started putting modern lights and accessories on it and passed it as wartime that would be a mockery.if you strive to kit it out with all the right kit and to make it as original as possible you get a totally different reaction,such is the case of most of these groups i think.unfortunatley these times are still in living memory so different reactions will be got.as for our hobby remember these vehicles are used in war for either killing or transporting people or equipment to harm others even jeeps! people will never be totally happy with anything someone does or says.veterans are veterans whatever their nationality and have my respect whoever they are, that is why my vehicle wears a poppy to remember those who didn't return and i always have time for anyone who wants to talk to me. as for peoples opinions they have the right to make their point and own decisions this is why we have freedom of speech so if someone wants to re-enact the other side it doesn't mean they are anyway that politically minded or they would'nt be allowed to join these groups so in my opinion these groups are nessercery to give a more realistic account,this doesn't mean going to the extreme,ie running around re-enacting war crimes! so that concludes my opinion so hopefully i haven't offended anyone in the process

you can count us in again rob

me too!!!

approx 550 to 600 rounds a minute if i remember correctly

hi all just an update to bump it up.all vehicles welcome whatever their era and remember its the sunday and monday!cheers for now

hi all, we've another military vehicle event on August bank holiday 27th and 28th.This is for anyone not going to detling and fancy a show.It will be classed as a meet so nice and relaxed.possible overnight depends on numbers.more details to follow. for a look at some of the other events please look on the website.www.coalhousefort.co.uk

thats because you went a bit fast over the bumps and her nails were imbedded in the metal work!!!!!!!! :evil:

yea obviously not watching just gasing!!!!

lee we had quite enough of the fox blocking the bridge thank you :wink:

neil is maud abit of a tart shes getting everywhere :roll:

off to odyssey on saturday as a mop then down to coalhouse for the sunday and monday.

paul next year we'll do the northern ireland thing,all we need is a piglet! anyway nice to meet you and the guys.

don't worry lee my finger will be in working order and primed for next year! :wink: next time we'll fire the pyros from the safety of the saracen! :-D

hi rob, great show count us in for next year! :-D

could be a problem the saracen hasn't got a windscreen :wink:

nice picture :wink: the only complaint with a saracen is my left foot burns after a good run!