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Instinctively I expect AFV components to be dark green in some form & if it is aircraft I expect it to be black. I have just run that manufacturer's part number past several million NSNs to see if it has been codified, but nothing came up. So looks unlikely that it is a component for a tank.

Bryan just do what you can as & when you can. Instalments would be fine!

Sean I've attached it to a PM to you, hope it arrives.

I have a scan of the Servicing Schedule I'll send you. A delight to see a museum open to advice & asking for help. This is in contrast to my experience of a museum I visited recently who were quite hostile to offers of help, despite some serious anomalies in their maintenance of an armoured vehicle often taken on the road.

Thank you that's an excellent contribution. Um if you have any spare time on your hands 5th edition would I'm sure hold many gems of info : )

Boundary Markers https://historicengland.org.uk/listing/the-list/list-entry/1393922

Sorry just thought as we were in a Morris Traveller thread that was what was being implied.

This surely is a Morris panel van, not a Traveller. I spoke to the owner some decades ago, he had a broad Welsh accent & told me he had bought it from a Mrs Prosser but he had decided to depict it as a military vehicle in the markings of a Bomb Disposal vehicle. He said he had never seen evidence that such vehicles were used his role but if they had been used this is how it would have looked. He added that nobody had corrected him on his representation as not being realistic. The thing is, it not very pleasant to go up to someone with their vehicle & start an argument with the owner's pride & joy. They are not likely to make any changes on the basis of such an observation that would be taken as criticism. To me it would have looked nicer restored as a GPO linesman's van, which I think is what it was. He was pleasant old chap who had been quite open about its history so I just smiled, thanked him & walked away.

Skelly might be something in the tentage overview on here:

Oh crikey that'll take a while esp as the PC has crashed out. Starting with the Truncheon, wood, hickory O467-8465-99-428-0717 Note the DMC (Domestic Management Code) is O467 & not to be read as 0467 O467 is the RN DMC for INDIVIDUAL EQUIPMENT INCLUDING HANDCUFFS, WHISTLES & BATONS Although that is how it was codified in recent times, Lists of Change Vol LXIX introduced it on 29th September 1959 into VAOS (Vocabulary of Army Ordnance Stores) Section KC as Batons (Cat No. KC 19252) "The Baton is made of hickory wood, 24 in long, incorporating a hand grip. A leather thong is affixed for securing to the wrist of the user. The above items are hereby introduced." So we have an exact time marker for its introduction. The other item to which it refers is Shields (Cat No. KC 19253) (For anti-riot use) & gives a description of its structure.

Just a few to be going on with: MARAUDER, STARTRAIN, CYCLET, SNIFFER, SWEEP, HED, PROBAN, DUBLOON, PANTAC, BED, CATS, CLARIBEL, EALS, ARIES, MINISID, UGS, DISID, MAGID, PORTABLE, DOMINO, STL, HELI-TELE, STARTRON, PNG, NITEC, NITESUN, NOD, SHORTIE, ACR FIREFLY, BETALIGHT, NODSPOT, GNAT, BLACKBOARD, BUBBLE, BUCKEYE, CLASSIC, CUED, DIVA, FLICKER, GAMMAMAT, GATWES, GOBLIN, GROUND OWL, HED, HOTROD, KEYSTONE, NEEDLE, OPSTATS, PAWPAW, PIGSTICK, POLESTAR, QUELL, RAPISCAN, SHORACRE, SHRIKE, SLIM, SPYGLASS, TELDIX, TIBEROUS, WOZZECK and not to forget TRUNCHEON, WOOD, HICKORY (an RN stores item!)

You are right that the B60 Mk 5A is quite common. EMERs & Roll Royce publications give no key to the detail of a change of the final letter other than indicate it is an external feature change such as provision for generator, governor, PTO etc. I have experience of the Mk 5F which was the engine fitted to FV1620 Hornet that had the mounting for 100A alternator rather than the dynamo versions. These engine were marked 5A but over-stamped 5F. Mk 5K was fitted to the FV1622 that had a Type 589/1B iso-speed governor which was larger than the Type 556 used on some B60s that may have used a different letter again. 5K was also seen over-stamped on 5F. I have now found the AP. Although the cover indicates Mk 5G much of the text is mistyped as Mk 50G. I can find no reference to a governor nor anything particularly remarkable. There is no mention of Mk 5G/1. Predating NSN codification, the part numbers given are Rolls Royce & RAF Vocab sections, obviously not being for Army use there are no VAOS part numbers although there are some FV number cross-references. Cross-referencing to the Simms or CAV generators show that it was fitted with the standard 24v 12A dynamo. Working from serial numbers there appear to be only 66 such engines. RR Spec CL1843 14 off RR Spec CL2574 52 off It states they were fitted to 4F/2394 Trolley Electrical, Servicing & Starting 10/40 KW Hope that helps a bit.

Probably RAF, it was covered in Air Publication 2173G Vol.3 Part 1. B60 Mk 5G. Schedule of Spare Parts. May 1963 I'll dig it out & have a look.

First of 20 prototype Pigs FV1609A appeared in 1956

Yes you were right & like you I'm not quite sure what its doing on this thread : ) It is sad when sites that set themselves up to be reference sources have duff info that can mislead people in all innocence that draw info from their site. A few years ago, as well as the Pig wiki pages I took down a lot of stuff from the Shorland pages, which is why both look rather sparse but there is still stuff on these pages that needs attention.

I'm sorry but I think you have been misled by the information given on http://www.tanks-encyclopedia.com/coldwar/UK/humber-pig.php Holy Pig refers to a Mk 1 Pig with a Perspex type box enclosure, what is depicted here is a Mk 2 Pig with Makralon side protection flaps that are hinged. The 10 Pigs in service with the Reserve Force RUC from 1958 were withdrawn from service & placed into storage on 1/1/70. During their time in service they carried no RUC markings as the population was well aware of who using them. I'm flattered that the article acknowledges some info was drawn from articles I have written & info I have provided to wiki. But unfortunately it & indeed the wiki the entry has serious amounts of misinformation. The following are typical examples of extraordinary errors: The operational weight of the Mk 2 Pig was not "6.5 tons" but 7 tons 13 cwt 2 qr. The suspension was not "independent coil springs", it was torsion bar suspension! "...the converted FV1611 Hornet missile platform". Nonsense, the Hornet FV1620 was built on the chassis of the FV1601 unarmoured truck & not even the FV1602 FFW truck. " If you follow the link to the Hornet pages that claim is again repeated & gems like "Total production 250 in 1955-60" actually there were only 24 operational Hornets & they were built from July 1962 to January 1963. I had better stop there, I think I must take some smelling salts & lie down, before I collapse of apoplexy : )

Thank you Robin, actually we have met many years ago. I have just changed the Dropbox link as I put in v1.02 & now changed it v1.03 It saddens me that I couldn't get it published, but apparently it exceeds the text to photo ratio that is required. Seemingly people don't like to have to read too much these days & prefer perusing photos. I realise there is some detail in there that may not intrigue everyone but it all forms the evidence of what was going on at the time.

https://www.bonhams.com/auctions/25824/lot/195/ https://www.bonhams.com/auctions/25824/lot/200/ They are both apparently: One of only 72 production 'Pink Panthers' Believed only 1 of 20 remaining

If you want to make it look smart get Satin finish, if you want it to look authentic get Matt. There is no Satin finish listed in the Catalogues of Army Ordnance Stores Section H1 (a) [later H1 (Part 1)] Paints, dopes & varnishes.

The link to this updated version has been lost, so here it is again. The subject of post-war British Army green paints that has fascinated me for over 35 years, but it has proved very difficult to find, let alone untangle tangible evidence from fading memories, misunderstandings & general misinformation. This tells the story of the interactions of finance, politics, strategic requirements, tactical needs, changing legislation, logistics, environmental issues, expediency etc I have included a number of extracts from documents and my reference sources, so that anyone can check up on me or pursue their own research from these starting points. It was considered to have too much text for our club magazine, but a copy is held in Library of Bovington Tank Museum for researchers to access. https://www.dropbox.com/sh/y3icx5761al00u9/AACGqQrN2TXeNJfPce5kqLtia?dl=0

I don't know why those links no longer work, but they are principally about the marking of vehicles.I did have a Dropbox link to my latest version of PW British Army Green Paints, but that seems to have gone. PS New link re-established

The lighting is fed from the 25A thermal cutout housed in Box Distribution No.1 Mk 1 so not effected by what is going on in the ignition circuit which is fed by the 10A thermal cutout also housed in Box Distribution No.1 Mk 1 Your voltmeter I assume is wired into the ignition circuit. To me it suggests a fault in the 10A thermal cutout (corroded or arced contacts) which even when open will still allow a voltage to flow through the cutout winding which is something like 150-200 ohms this will pass only a very small current. But would be sufficient to illuminate the red & yellow lights to some degree. As this also supplies the ignition coil through to the distributor, when the points are open of course the coil draws no current & there is enough power to illuminate the red & yellow lights. But if the engine has stopped when the points are close there might be nearly 4A flowing, but if the thermal cutout is defective then trying to flow this current through the winding of 150-200 ohms will cause a serious voltage drop. This will not be sufficient to illuminate the red & yellow lights, energise the coil or allow the starter to be activated. I think the state when you get 28-30v not fluctuating when the red & yellow are turned on is when the distributor contact breaker points are open.

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I think the smaller one is the Generator No.1. What is the Gen Panel No.? I believe it is possible to fit a 2-speed Generator Panel No.2 in place of the single speed panels. I have some experience of the 2-speed panel but not the single speed. I would be tempted at the moment to take all voltage readings direct from the battery as added on things by a previous owner like a voltmeter are not necessarily placed in the most appropriate place, in terms where & how effectively it is earthed & whether +ve voltage monitoring point is most appropriate eg the instrument panel is fed by a 10A thermal cut out, which can get unreliable & even when the contacts are open circuit can still supply a voltage albeit with very low current capabilities because of the flow through the coil winding which is something like 150 ohms. The voltage that appears is dependant on what other demands are being place on the circuit in such circumstances. In the first post you mention turning on the "panel lights" is that the single bulb to illuminate instruments or the main light switch in the Switchboard No.1 ? Of course the other panel lights (red & yellow) come on when the ignition switch is turned on initially. What was the problem with the starter motor? Are you certain it was at fault & not the ancillary wiring in some way, given that you have these other issues?

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