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I was a bit perplexed as I could find no news items relating to this re-opening. But it seems to have been re-branded. http://www.andrew-turner.org.uk/events/opening-charm-conflict-history-and-remembrance-museum-northwood-formerly-isle-wight-military-

Just went to the W&PR web site to look for 2014 pictures & just get this: "The following directories must be writable by the web server: tmp/cache tmp/templates_c Please correct by executing: chmod 777 tmp/cache chmod 777 tmp/templates_c or the equivilent for your platform before continuing." Is it them or is it me?

I agree with Richard. I hosted a Dutch & two Italian friends also within are our group we had German & Danish exhibitors. Something that wouldn't happen at any other show I go to. Also met several members of the forum I've not met before, the regret is that there were many others I often see who I didn't bump into. I don't think I saw any members of the public go by us in the far end of the Jones field. But not a great problem that's not what I go for. Its not like the other place I know, but we are where we are & I want it to work as I would miss this annual extravaganza.

Yes I had almost forgotten. It was both exciting & unusual but tinged with some disappointment. Warning: This is only of interest to EMER collectors & Humber 1 Ton owners Mods to the Humber 1 Ton are contained in EMER WHEELED VEHICLES N 257. The index page lists all the modifications contained in that particular volume. Unfortunately most of these are dated 1968 & a few 1963, with subsequent additions listed chronologically. It has always been a source of frustration that Mods Nos 1-36 were just listed as cancelled. I wondered what these mods were for & whether they were embodied in later mods. To my delight I stumbled on an EMER in the old 23-clip binder with the index page dated Dec 1956 that had never been updated. It listed the purpose of Mod Nos 1-31:yay: The disappointment came when I realised that an unwise person had not read the chapters correctly & the details of the few Mods that followed were not for N 257 but H 257 that covers the Daimler Armoured Car. :argh: The only N 257 was Mod No. 4 A very welcome find as I have never found such early index before which would normally be destroyed when updated. Just a shame the full details were missing. None the less are rare & I'm afraid exciting find for me. :-D

No problems Bernard just took me 6 hours. My friend next to me left an hour before me, but when he got back to Amsterdam I was only halfway home. I think I need a tunnel from here to Folkstone :-D

A new half-shaft :-D

Greetings Roger & certainly an interesting project you are running. As a detectorist myself, I wonder what sort of depths you can achieve in such dry sand for small objects (coins, bullets etc) My Crown Estates Permit limits me to foreshore detecting, which inevitably means a high proportion of wet sand that I think enhances the presence of a target. I have never detected (although many do) in totally dry sand, so wonder what depths can be achieved. I wonder what sort of machine you use? I don't know how the sites change with the winds in uncovering things, so do you have keep going over places time after time?

This is the stuff I used. In the shop I asked for advice on how best to get an orange suitable for a turn light. It was suggested that I get a much darker shade as painting a bulb would only give a thin layer. "Paprika" was recommended & in use it turned out to be a very good orange. This was about 15 years ago & the coating has remained physically stable & maintained its colour. At the time it cost £2.99. I used it for bulbs on the front of my Humber where the turn lights where originally white. Nobody expects to see flashing white lights these days & lenses in these fittings are only in red or clear. For originality I didn't want to paint the lens orange, so just painted the bulbs.

Just to whet your appetite a bit more, here is some gentle off-road Humbering

I had a parallel problem trying to get orange bulbs in 24v 10w. The answer for me was to go to a craft shop & buy translucent glass paint. To cure it the instruction was to bake the glass in the oven, but I just left the bulbs turned on for 5-10 mins.

Yes the soft skin is a rarer thing. The engine bay is more roomy than a Pig, but I find the Pig engine is easier to work on as you can kneel on the flat wings, but the GS are rounded & you slide off unless you remove the wings. The GS may have been less stressed as it clearly has a lighter body to carry around. The tracta joints on the GS are the same front & rear. But the Pig had Chobham joints in the rear, these were meant to be stronger but had a poor reputation particular during service in N.Ireland with the clips retaining the articulating pads failing. In fact at one stage GS rear joints were fitted. When you get to the up-armoured Mk 2 Pigs troubles really went from bad to worse there is an article on the forum about all that. You may notice the FV1601 being referred to as CT & sometimes GS. CT = Combat Type but the spec was changed to cut about £250 worth of extras & designated GS = General Service. I have never found a definitive list of what these economies were.

Might be worth just asking on here in case someone has a vehicle they might sell. https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/HUMBER-FV1600/info You have to join to post of course, but I can facilitate that quite quickly for you.

I'm not up in cars but thought the main body was a Humber Snipe as it had a connection in name with the basic chassis. I think have a picture of a Humber with a rather stretched Land Rover body! I think the insulation was dual purpose. It underwent some trials in Australia, although mechanically it did not do too well due to poor technical back up. None the less the Australian Army bought some although they were officially designated as Commer FV1601. Cold weather trials were done in Canada. They were pretty robust. The FV1601, 1620, 1621, 1622, 1623, 1624 variants did well in the desert. If you are after a Pig that is pretty up together I know of one for sale.

Not meaning to hijack your thread fatboy, but I'm sure you will be pleased to learn just how resilient these Humbers really are. In the 1960s KTB112C was used for banger racing, an activity not liked by classic car enthusiasts as it normally results in the destruction of the vehicle. But not so with Humbers! It was saved by John Marchant & rebodied by the current owner.

This was all deadly serious stuff. It was the only thing I bought at W&P (well yes other than the half-shaft)

That's interesting Steve, presumably it would be for the 4-cylinder Morris auxiliary engine? On your system does it still show a 16E reference as well? The fact that at one time it did suggests it would also have had a RAF application other just Cent?

Shouldn't think so Andy it would be far too long

Yes well done Chopa spot on! I would think this thing would quite difficult to control. I wouldn't envy the man sat astride it!

No it's not that Lauren

It's not a dam

It's not that Wally

Wally first bit no, second bit YES

Afraid so, looks like bit of misrepresentation of the goods. Unless of course the heavy commercial collectors regard the dynamo as a highly valued item?

Bernard yes spot on, I mentioned earlier "some iron fixed to the base" & I suspect that some of the other spaces would hold some additional ballast. Yes that dotted line is the water level.

Sean yes it is a real nightmare around the cab roof. The space is filled with a sort of ribbed plastic packing. These are the places where you sometimes get newspaper & filler repairs I was involved in the sale of several Humbers from my friend's estate 4 years ago. One of the Humbers is undergoing a meticulous restoration. I thought the cab was in a not too bad state, but I saw some pictures of the work recently & it is alarming how extensive the damage was. I say a meticulous restoration as it is being undertaken by Roger Graystone who won the W&P best post-war vehicle prize this year. So I'm looking forward to seeing the completed restoration.