simon king Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 (edited) I am now looking to complete the truck/ground WS19 installation in my MWR. The B set antenna mount and associated leads are sorted but with regard to the A set antenna, all I have is the acorn shape rubber antenna mount. I have tried a trial installation on the MWR roof, but I think I need more parts in order … Rubber antenna mount Mounting base, Antenna No 3 Plates, connector No 2 WS19 Antenna Feeder Assembly No 9 (plugs into the antenna fitting on the variometer mount/antenna base which bolts to side of PSU) Is this correct and can anyone point me to any possible sources for the parts I might need. thanks Edited October 27, 2022 by simon king Correction Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guy66 Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 Some pictures of a mounting base antenna No3 ZA 1827 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon king Posted November 10, 2022 Author Share Posted November 10, 2022 Thanks for that, it’s on the roof and won’t be seen, so decided to have a spacer laser cut out of 5mm plate, together with an example out of 2mm plate which I will use to reproduce a connector plate. Will replace them as I find originals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guy66 Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 Good to here that you have a solution for your problem, if you need more information always welcome to contact me. I have some wireless stuff that I want to install in my Morris C4 wireless lorry . I am also looking what the Areal base looks like for a HP set 19 , the pictures in the Wireless for warriors book are not so great . Guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Suslowicz Posted July 30, 2023 Share Posted July 30, 2023 On 11/10/2022 at 5:09 PM, guy66 said: Good to here that you have a solution for your problem, if you need more information always welcome to contact me. I have some wireless stuff that I want to install in my Morris C4 wireless lorry . I am also looking what the Areal base looks like for a HP set 19 , the pictures in the Wireless for warriors book are not so great . Guy If it's the one I think it is (that takes 'D' rods from the 34-ft steel vertical aerial - the 'golf bag'), then it's an "Aerial lead in No.16" which is built up from "Insulator W/T 'H'", Aerial Base No.3, four tinned copper braid straps, and an adapter plate. I've got some of the bits somewhere, is your vehicle fitted with a "House Type" wireless body, and is the aerial base mounted through the roof or on the centre line of the body behind the cab, because the mount requirements are different. Chris. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guy66 Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 Hello Chris. Yes it's a house type wireless box that I am bilding and want to make it in to a HP unit . Ass it seems the later house body's had the aerial support in front of the cabin on a metal support. Earlier models had the aerial on the roof. Will post a picture of a base that looks like the thing I am looking for. Regards Guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guy66 Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 (edited) 16 hours ago, Chris Suslowicz said: If it's the one I think it is (that takes 'D' rods from the 34-ft steel vertical aerial - the 'golf bag'), then it's an "Aerial lead in No.16" which is built up from "Insulator W/T 'H'", Aerial Base No.3, four tinned copper braid straps, and an adapter plate. I've got some of the bits somewhere, is your vehicle fitted with a "House Type" wireless body, and is the aerial base mounted through the roof or on the centre line of the body behind the cab, because the mount requirements are different. Chris. I think that the aerial base looks like the one on the picture Chris ? Edited July 31, 2023 by guy66 Double Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guy66 Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 And this is the sketch I found in the Wireless for the warrior. Also a picture of the wireless stuff I collected over the year to use in my Morris Commercial C4 wireless . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Suslowicz Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 Yes, and it sits on Insulator W/T 'H' with an extension bar to get the central feed below the mounting bracket, then there's a cable to the pyrex insulator in the blackout box for feedthrough to the vehicle. The straps are to bypass the (not very good at high power) Pendulastic insulator, and leave the ceramic mushroom to do that bit and the rubber to absorb jolts and swaying. I probably have some spare parts of this assembly, or bits in the collection that can be used as a pattern. Best regards, Chris. Wireless for the Warrior Volume 1, page W.S.19 - 74 shows the layout. I may have a sample of everything except the vehicle mounting bracket. The connector 20D should be listed in the Parts Identification List in enough detail to fabricate one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packhow75 Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 18 hours ago, Chris Suslowicz said: Yes, and it sits on Insulator W/T 'H' with an extension bar to get the central feed below the mounting bracket, then there's a cable to the pyrex insulator in the blackout box for feedthrough to the vehicle. The straps are to bypass the (not very good at high power) Pendulastic insulator, and leave the ceramic mushroom to do that bit and the rubber to absorb jolts and swaying. I probably have some spare parts of this assembly, or bits in the collection that can be used as a pattern. Best regards, Chris. Wireless for the Warrior Volume 1, page W.S.19 - 74 shows the layout. I may have a sample of everything except the vehicle mounting bracket. The connector 20D should be listed in the Parts Identification List in enough detail to fabricate one. I sold one of these a few years ago - I can ask the buyer if they would support loaning it for patterning. Let me know. Tim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guy66 Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 21 minutes ago, Packhow75 said: I sold one of these a few years ago - I can ask the buyer if they would support loaning it for patterning. Let me know. Tim Hello Tim , we can always see if there is a possibility to look at reproducing this support are if the buyer may be in to sell this part. Guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packhow75 Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 45 minutes ago, guy66 said: Hello Tim , we can always see if there is a possibility to look at reproducing this support are if the buyer may be in to sell this part. Guy Unlikely the part will be for sale - it was bought for his radio truck. But, I guess if you offer enough cash, you might be lucky. I will ask if any chance of getting it drawn up in cad or copied.... or he wants to sell. Tim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packhow75 Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 2 hours ago, guy66 said: Hello Tim , we can always see if there is a possibility to look at reproducing this support are if the buyer may be in to sell this part. Guy I have sent you a private message with the chap's contact details. It is definitely not for sale, but might be he will measure it and provide good photos. Tim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guy66 Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 On 7/31/2023 at 5:51 PM, Chris Suslowicz said: Yes, and it sits on Insulator W/T 'H' with an extension bar to get the central feed below the mounting bracket, then there's a cable to the pyrex insulator in the blackout box for feedthrough to the vehicle. The straps are to bypass the (not very good at high power) Pendulastic insulator, and leave the ceramic mushroom to do that bit and the rubber to absorb jolts and swaying. I probably have some spare parts of this assembly, or bits in the collection that can be used as a pattern. Best regards, Chris. Wireless for the Warrior Volume 1, page W.S.19 - 74 shows the layout. I may have a sample of everything except the vehicle mounting bracket. The connector 20D should be listed in the Parts Identification List in enough detail to fabricate one. The insulator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Suslowicz Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 On 8/1/2023 at 6:24 PM, guy66 said: The insulator No, that's Aerial Lead-In No.12 which goes inside the 'black-out box' on the front wall of the vehicle body. Lead-In No.16 is the assembly that goes on the vehicle roof or the external bracket on the front wall of the body at roof level. I have an unissued complete one in the collection, together with the extension rod and the "Plates, Adaptor, No.5" to mount it on the bracket. In terms of "available spares", there's possibly a damaged No.16 - I took it apart to try and remove a corroded-in aluminium stub from the socket for the aerial rod and managed to bruise the thread on the socket, I definitely have two of the "Plates, Adapter No.5" though, and the extension rod is a simple matter of cutting some threads on a steel rod and painting it green (plus a threaded coupler). The adapters for 'F' rods were in use fora long time, and the "sloping twin 16-ft V" should be fairly easy to obtain. (Wireless For The Warrior shows a single sloping rod adapter with the Canadian Laport adapter used to make the 'V'. I don't think the rods would stay in place on the move, the later "all in one" adapter had a screw clamp that operated on both rods.. Best regards, Chris. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guy66 Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 Hello Chris If possible can you sent some pictures of the aerial gear , for this radio stuff is a bit complicated ! Give some plate and wood I will construct a radio box , but the radio installation is black magic and I need to learn a lot abut this and all the combinations makes it really difficult . I will the Aerial lead in front of the cabin ( I so pictures where it is mounted ) and you are right that there is a little black out box inside the cabin . On the picture you can see the little box that I will reproduce for inside the radio box . Regards Guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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