Pzkpfw-e Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 Amazing what's still out there, not likely to be recovered, as it's not in such good state as "Swamp Ghost" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tartan-ninja Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 Oh i dont know, a few worse nick onces have been lifted out, depends where she is and how much someone wants her....Crackin post never knew about this one at all :-D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.O.S. Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 Yes, thanks for that. Just googled images search for B17 wreck Papua and some unbelievable images appeared - a few really evocative nice underwater views! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike65 Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 Somebody will probably go get it. Saw a programme on discovery (I think?) about a bloke who was sent out to that neck of the woods to find a P38 for somebody who wanted to restore one. They found one but was in a real bad state. Not to forget the P38 "Glacier Gal" which they pulled out of the glacier in Greenland and rebuilt to fly again. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pzkpfw-e Posted February 11, 2011 Author Share Posted February 11, 2011 I think it's the "Black Cat Pass" B17 http://www.pacificwrecks.com/aircraft/b-17/41-9234/articles/flightpath.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pzkpfw-e Posted February 11, 2011 Author Share Posted February 11, 2011 This one is the "Black Cat Pass" wreck. The serial number is still visible on its tail and the US Star is outlined by the original British roundal, as it was originally intended to be part of a batch for Coastal Command. http://www.pacificwrecks.com/aircraft/b-17/41-9234.html http://www.pacificwrecks.com/aircraft/b-17/41-9234/articles/flightpath.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theo barten Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 To me it sounds like a sick joke. i.e. a model Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Warne Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 Certainly for a P-51, and I believe this holds true for a P-38 aswell, as long as you have the airframe 'dataplate' (identity of an original aircraft), then that's all that's required to 'restore' the aircraft. In essence it will be a new manufacture. If you think about the P-38 Glacier Girl, whilst the restoration used as many serviceable parts from the recovered original as possible, it is a virtually new aircraft. I remember reading that the CAF B-26 Carolyn suffer undercarriage failure a few years after they got her back into the air. The accident damaged the main spar, and as the original plans were lost in a fire at Martin Aircraft years ago, the CAF had to get a new spar made using the damaged one as a pattern - with reference to other surviving examples too I'd guess. Ultimately, if there's enough money anything is possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
extrogg Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 Heres an interesting site, http://www.bentprop.org/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Rimmer Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Certainly for a P-51, and I believe this holds true for a P-38 aswell, as long as you have the airframe 'dataplate' (identity of an original aircraft), then that's all that's required to 'restore' the aircraft. In essence it will be a new manufacture.If you think about the P-38 Glacier Girl, whilst the restoration used as many serviceable parts from the recovered original as possible, it is a virtually new aircraft. I remember reading that the CAF B-26 Carolyn suffer undercarriage failure a few years after they got her back into the air. The accident damaged the main spar, and as the original plans were lost in a fire at Martin Aircraft years ago, the CAF had to get a new spar made using the damaged one as a pattern - with reference to other surviving examples too I'd guess. Ultimately, if there's enough money anything is possible. Chris you have raised a very good point and this is why I'm personally not in favour of the presumption that an aircraft should be restored,especially when it's well preserved and historically important(such as the B-17 above or the P-38 from Iceland). I would much prefer to see a conserved wreck than a "restored" aircraft which in fact is little more than a replica. Matt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Barrell Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Without someone spending a huge sum to recover the aircraft for a return to flight restoration in the first place, many of these wrecks would never be seen again at all. The P-38 is a particularly good example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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