Tony B

Welcome in Ross.

You said it John, the old ones are real driving !:-D Canvas is an oiled cotton. Large application of Stockholm Tar or Barbour wax will preserve them indefinitley. Lanolin can be used BUT always wear gloves and wear woolen kit when applying it. Large aplications of raw lanolin in contact with skin can cause reactions.

Disiel at £1.40.9 ! At one garage round here, a penny more than last night.

Alein, it was made very clear to me, you do not ROGER people over the radio! :-D (That is left to people like cab drivers!)

I TOLD you lot, But would you listen? It was NOT a good idea to get Jack to hold auditicions for replacement dancing girls! :-D

Thats the Guy!! I knew it was an odd name in the context. His photo collection is in the C.I.O.S. and Jersey Archive. If the Archive survives various cuts and I can afford the fare to get there when its open.............

There is a free proggrame called Audacity. http://audacity.sourceforge.net/ I used it to put some statcic and hiss on modern CD and voice recordings to give atmosphere. Just record onto MP3 palyer and get a cheap amplifier for about £10 and secrete behind radio.

I'd agree Degsy. The wartime US stuff was built to work and be fixed, the troops need came first, not the profit of the companies.

At age of about 5, (To long ago!) aA nice man from the States of jersey called Eric Walker (B.E,M.) visited us at La Moye School. and spent the whole afternoon showing us all sorts of Ordnance telling us not to touch. As the school leads straight onto the sand dunes at St Quen, and the bunkers..... Shortly after the Liberation the islands were bankrupt. So wa the rest of Britian for that matter. During the late 1940's early 50's ther was a major scrap drivefor rebuilding. a lot of stuff went then. The Royal Enginners were in charge of clearance of the fortifications, and the name of the man in charge I can't remember! :banghead: T.TM. should know, he has copies of the guys pictures of Ward's at work in the Island. Anyway, the Staes decided that they could in the future cash in on the Tourism side of the Occupation. so a number of items were placed in the HO2 and HO5 tunnels at L' Aleval. HO3 (Entrance by side of cottage) became the Mushroom Farm. In the early sixtes the entrance to the tunnels were brocken open, and a fire was lit in the tunnels. I'm a bit hazy on the full details without checking up but two young boys died as a result of fumes in the tunnels. The decision was taken by the Staes to empty and permenantly seal the tunnels. This was under the command of Lt Col. Blashford Snell. It is covered in his book the White elephants (Or similar title) There is still ordnace about, C.I.O.S. come acros it ocasionally. But it is a licence requirment that any archeological work on a conflict site requires an Ordanace Expert on call. 7.92 Mauser cases could be found by the dozen when I was a kid!

New restoratrion thread: How much Botox....? And is now the time to raise the subject of the mink lining to go on the bike shed walls and floors?

Your'e in the right place David! There are quite a few military vehicles round the area.:-D The local archeology is also there. Andy Brock out at Greenwich has done a lot around Shooters Hill. There is also Firepower,

Yeah should have asked which bit of London? Plenty of stuff around the area. Can't sign write can you?

Depends what you want it for. Most course will quote to include C.P.C which you'll need if you are driving commercially. They may also push you to take the fork lift licence for the mini lifts on the back of trucks. Some did a deal fail first test next test free. Bear in mind you will need 1 A medical before the provisional is gramted and 2 the theory hazard perception before the practical. It is a lot cheaper and easier to get the theory hazard test privatley. Amazon do all the discs and books. You will NOT need the CPC if your main job is not driving. Medical will cost about £80 then the cost of the Provisonal. DVLA have a commercial licence section that is pretty hot on getting licences back to you. You can get an Info pack D2 from DVLA. Supposedly on line, except, the **** submit button is under the info and don't WORK! :computerrage: Wee! Dey fixed it! http://www.dft.gov.uk/dvla/onlineservices/order_forms.aspx?ext=dg

Just reviewed it on 4od. It is the silly things that can cause problems. Take the Anchor butter tin, if that's what it was. December 1944 The Baillifs send a letter via the Protecting power, (Swiss Red Cross) on the state of the Island's supplies. Huffmeir as Military Commander claims it is Britian's problem to feed the civillians. (Bad German) Churchill replies 'let them starve' (Not thought of as a hero by all Islanders) Froths on that feeding civillians will allow rations to Occupying troops and they will continue to hold out. Von Schmettow (Civillian administrator (Good German) undertakes no Red Cross supplies will go to troops, further issues orders that no troops are to accept any civillian rations. Just after Christmas Red Cross ship S.S. Vega arrives with 100,000 Red Cross parcels from Canada and New Zealand, soap salt medical supplies and very important (Because they could stave of hunger pangs) Cigaretes! Parcels were distributed, and people being people, some grumbled that the Canadian parcels were better then the New Zealand ones and vice versa. So how did the tin end up in a German rubbish dump? Was it stolen by the Germans (Bad Germans)? Given by an Islander (Aiding and abbetting enemy combatants)? Or another possibility stolen by roaming slave workers ? There are stories (Corobarated) of violent theft from houses of food by slave workers. (Untrmeshnch). However all this misses one point anyone with a good knowledge of the Occupation would point out. You don't waste a perfectly good tin!!! It would have been used as a plate, cooking pot, reflector for lamp, definitley not just dumped! The German troops would have got rid it very far from the site as if found by an officer there could have been disciplinary action taken, at that stage possible death sentence. Most likley scenario I can see. It was part of the Force 135 rations dumped AFTER the Liberation by troops and POWs cleaning up.

There are prioducts available from Nikwax, my favourites, or saddelers or good old Johnson's weather seal. These will treat and clean canvas. Mould is the worst thing. Don't be tempted to wash with detergent, dosen't do it any good. Best thing is to wash on the vehicle. You can use pur soap such as Lux. Rinse very well and allow to dry to damp before applying treatments. Canavas patching can be done by a saddler. Treat any leather straps etc withh a good treatment such as Nikwax or Neats foot oil;. Most leather fitting will be a Chrome tan (Blueish colour with a distinct middle layer in the tan) that is the only stuff to use on truck canvas waterproof and very hard wearing. As long as the canvas is clean it should last many years. Stres points such as corners are the bad places. Canvas sails used to be treated with a mix of fish oil and paint pigment.

Welcome David, you can add 1:1 scale as well. What's wrong with beer women and MVs anyway?

The whole subject is still touchy amongst those who went through it. You have spend a fair time getting to know people before they will open up. The Islands had very diffrent experiences, Despite the physical closeness the sea forms an effective barrier. What telephone or radio communication inter island was of course under German control. Stories are completly diffrent. Another point of contention (Still) is the actions of the Island's Bailliff. One thing the Germans did do in Jersey was lay an extensive telephone network. The pile of wires that was found may be one of the mising switch nodes. The 'Revelations' of various historians over the last ten to fitten years over treatment of the Island's Jewish population, and charges of collabaration , lack of resistance to the 'Occupying' ie German forces has caused a lot of hurt amongst the older people. The way the Islands worked would have seemed Feudal to an English person even then. The links to France were much closer. Rather like a smaller version of Ireland, The Islands exported a lot of people, in Jerseys case a lot went to New Foundland. A legacy of the cod fishing grounds explotied by Jerseymen. The cattle of course, though they were often wrongly called Alderney's. Due to the ships used to export them bneing of a type called the Alderney Packet (The original version of 4 and 20 blackbirds, refers to an Alderney Cow) Unfortuantley the number of true Crapaud's, Jersey born and bred is getting fewer, if you are Jersey born of Jersey born parents, you have no rights in the E.E.C. despite a British Passport. Any way wandering off subject.

Didn't catch the ladies name. I'll go to 4od when I get a chance.

Welcome in.

The thing is Time Team is entertainment. The historian for instance, people talked to her. Nanay, nanay, my love! The best public one is John Nettle's DVD on the Occupattion. Thats the most open one to Grockles I've ever seen.

Yes Nigel. The area Time Team was digging Les Gilliettes is above the confluence of Tesson and St Peters valley. Where the road up to the hospital starts at Tesson Chapel. The area across from the chapel behind Tesson Mill, now part of Bel Royal Garage was the underground power station. To the west is L'Aleval known locally as the German road. There are futher tunnels under there. Behind it is the Strawberry Farm, Jersey Living Legend, that area is dotted with bunkers which formed the Island command post. The area of the dig is on the Cotils. This is the name given to the steep slopes down the side of the valleys. I've been told there were four 88mm guns mounted there. The Germans had a hbit of building positions, then abandoning them or putting in tempoary mounts before stsrting on permenant sites which never got finished. Behind the feild with the menage where the drill round was dug is a concrete anti tank ditch, unles it has been filled in. We lost a little mare in it years ago. Belinda got loose and fell into it. Took a crane to get her out.

I've cured the canvas sag by putting light plastic sheet on top of the frame under the canvas. Fortunatley despite all the weather has thrown at it the cover withstood it.

Thanks Degsey. I'm waiting for a topographic map to arive. Looks like I've got to track all the unit war diaries. Well it will keep me off the streets. Managed to find the film clip I was looking for. http://www.itnsource.com/shotlist//BHC_RTV/1944/06/29/BGU409160005/ Pity about the cost. The lsat time we entered down the hill that the troops are sweeping with the detectors.

I've had a breathable caravan cover over the Dodge the last couple of years. Excelleent for outdor storage.

Hi Nigel, I know the museum. Stefan the curator is known to me. We did a thing there on the 65th anniversary. This time its inland from the beaches to Tilly at Stephan's invitation. Tilley's rebuilding was nessacary as only one building remained standing following the battle for the crossroads. The villiage lost 623 civillian casualties. The place even got shelled by HMS Rodney (The only Britsh warship to shell part of the UK as well!) Did you vist Jersualem Farm? In addition to the cemetery, they also make the Best Calvados in the world! :dancinggirls::beer: