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Fair play to the young one and good of the canadians to aknowledge him made me feel a bit sentimental

Dont know if your any good at close up work but i think there is some money to be made at leather patches. My sign writer did a few for me then i met this lady in america who i use now i believe she set out out doing nose art. She is the bees knees i have put link on but best way to get to what i am on about is just to type in rosemary dery patches www.rosemarydery.com

Fantastic art form and it it looks your an expert at it. Our sign writer who was one of the best in the local area now flatly refuses to get his brushes out any more. He used the same expression as you "why when i can slap a load of vinyl on" Shame its go to be a dying trade Keep it up

Hi when i read this post i read the headline and presumed it was an iveco trakker. Looking at it again i think it is a foden. I think it is one of the Alpha range that used the Iveco cab and were built at the leyland factory quite a few were built for the MOD mostly as tippers. I used to go to the Leyland factory taking and picking up ambulances for crash testing and got to see the facilitys were these were built. They were assembled on the same line as the Leyland Daf 45s A lot of these are currently up for disposal so they must be fairly old.

Only big Iveco i have seen in Mod is the wrecker that follows nuclear convoys. having said that i didnt know british army had Volvos and Scanias until the 6*6s started appearing at sales. Could it be on extended trials

Why not have best of both . One of our next projects is we have a civilian 8 wheeler hook loader we are mounting a set of stiff legs big winch and recovery crane on a flat rack so the truck can take scrap in bins away and double up for recovery when needed

At the begining of vidio i noticed something moving to left of tanker at first i thought that the tanker was hooked on to an electrical line or something. but i decided it was just foilage getting blown about by strong wind. The flames dont seem to have enough smoke for fuel oil or petrol. so maybe its a more volatile alchohol fuel it is in Brazil. the strong wind and up draft from fire maybe be drawing fumes away from what ever went on floor. The tanker was certainly carring liquid as its construction rules out liqufied pressurised gas To put it plainly i dont know but would like to find out.

. Thanks for them two clips i have not seen them before. Both pose some questions to me. The first one why did it do a secondary roll. On level ground that should not have gone over with out the top cars on. I think the vidio has the clues. Looking at i think it has been winched over on a fairly steep incline it is certainly down hill to the artic in the back ground. The thing that gave it the momentem to completly go over if you look at the 4*4 in the back of the trailer it is not fastened down and right when the whole lot is at its most vunrable it slides and whacks in to the upright sending it on its way. The second vidio is more of a puzzle why did it go bang. looking at the vidio there is no obvious source of ignition there. that pionts to something to do with the actual recovery. if you look it is being recovered by the hiab arm on the recovery vehicle it is being used in a very unusual way. the arm is folded down and being used to draw the overturned tanker towards it via some chains. Now you might say iam crazy but looking at the vidieo ithink they have attached the chains to the discharge pipes on the tank. At around 11 sec the arm seems to be still moving but the tanker momenteraly stops there then appears to be a sudden gush of fluid from underneath tank. the fire starts there and shoots round the tank and ignites the vapour in the tank and bang. It a poor quality vidieo and i dont know how to slow down U tube vidieo but thats my theory any one else any ideas

No if you look it has twin winches. Also the fairleads they exit out of are 360% which combined with the multitude of tie back eyes makes for really versatile winching lifting rigging. Unlike UK types which are limited to straight up and down lifting. I dont know for sure but that recovery boom usually has twin 30,000lbs or 40,000lbs capacity winches. The booms are designed from the begining for recovery/winching forces being imposed on them and a by product is they also have excellent lifting capability. The uk booms start life as straight forward cranes with single winch with multiple reeving on it and this is all they can be used for. That boom by the way is currently the industry standard and there are many thousand in use in north america so all the teething problems have been ironed out. The truck also has a 50ton constant line pull winch to the rear plus conventional independant underlift with a rating of 20 ton. I dont know if its supposed to show a self recovery or the elevated winching recovery of another vehicle what ever it does show it has versatility to do things that wouldnt be an option with a UK version

Really feel i must qualify my last post and use the opurtunity to put a picture on for reccymech66 who i know is interested in the development of this recovery vehicle. This truck was developed here in the UK for use by armed forces (not UK) who have decided to use the right length chassis and off the shelf recovery equipment that i would suggest could knock the spots of any thing the uk has at half the price (recovery equipment wise)

Another method of raising the lifting ability on suspend tows of a recovery vehicle is to use the bogie blocking system. This is great and sure does the trick. But and this is a big But it is still a bodge. It gets the job done and satisfies MOD specs but it dont make up for for not using the right equipment chassis specs to start with.

I have never seen a Donaldson reactor in the flesh and i dont no of one ever been used in the civilian recovery industry except of course those who have used ex mod AECs in civillian roles. I have read about them and understand how they work. The reason they were not adopted for civillian use was the mucking about rigging them up. They were designed originally to overcome the lack of lifting ability of the AEC militant MK3

little clue look at front wheels i guess this picture was taken same time as when it had 8 wheeler hooked up MT with extention pieces added to make it easier to lift. I would risk a new pair of steel toe capped boots under front wheels.

no it has got stabilizer legs and they are are deployed in on of the pictures although i doubt not to full extension which is bad practice. No it it is an inherant fault that all recovery vehilcles are designed to overcome but this one hasnt made the grade

last picture in that series tells me a lot and is probably why it was never adopted for use in Mod any one have a guess what i am thinking

What fantastic inside info pictures i have seen the second one before it was in one of our trade magazines. under an advert for rotzler winches. To a piont though it has muddied the waters a little more as the one shown by stolly has a different reg no but many thanks for posting. Also i believe the so called under lift is similar to that fitted to the modern MAN recovery vehicles and the US Oshkosh trucks although why its called an under lift i dont know cause it can do no such thing

So the army could still test it try it out??

My reasoning for stating after disposal was i thought they had Lot nos in the windows. All the reasons mentioned would be valid use of the trade plates.

May have been when it had come up for disposal and going to its new home.

It will have had STGO plate to enable it to ride about under CU regs as an overwidth recovery vehicle its gross train wt and axles will still be the same as when it left the factory. Note it will be running as a recovery vehicle not a ballast tractor. As for the trade plates when the picture was taken it was probably legal but nowadays the use of trade plates for recovery is forbidden. The foden 8*4 was i believe up for sale a couple of years ago at Jacksons the rocket site Lincs. the last time i saw the nuclear convoy it was accompanied by an Iveco euro trekker with same recovery kit on it the gear i think is made by BRO or SWS

got to be better than no oil i would say

Just been reading the Foden post and came across this picture posted by reccy66 just wondered where it was taken Canada perhaps. Reason i ask is iam 99% certain its the cab i have just fitted on mine

Held back a bit on this one. Fine to restore and display vehicles and be proud of them and show to the public. join a reenactment group collect all the kit get to show the public this fine. get the vehicle dress up throw what appears to be a dead body over the bonnet drive it through a busy market town with familys and kids about just to draw attention to your self no give that a miss

Could start another thread on tachos. Yesterday i drove the Dodge Ram which i recently got done for over loading in up to Darlington (twice). It has had a tacho fitted Friday. But not a digi card type. You still use paper charts in it.

Small piont if you happened to take your test in a drops vehichle you would only be allowed to drive an automatic not a manual