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Adam nice to see a Mk2 au naturel without all the pointy bits in red gloss, so not been owned by a MV enthusiast before? Or perhaps it was & it got a tarting up respray a while ago as the spray went over the rear vision block? 30 BK 35 was struck off by BAOR on 19/6/69. Was recovered to Hilton on 5/9/79. Now that is very late as the 200 Pigs recovered in preparation for Op Bracelet took place in 1972. Bracelet finished in June 1973. So there is either an error on the record card or this received a Mk 2 body from a severely damaged or worn out Pig as the Mk 2 conversion kits would have been used up in Op Bracelet. These were desperate times as automotive failure rate was high & re bodying was quite readily done. All the RUC FV1609s were re bodied & even 21 BK 96 received a new body in 1974 & that was once a Hornet!

Tim I am a subscriber to Great War Forum. It is at times quite intense & most people really know their stuff. I feel very cautious about making a post & saying something foolish, I was going to say it doesn't so matter so much here, but I mean that in a complimentary way. When I have ventured on it is only subjects I know a little bit about & can stand my ground a bit. These tend to be about documents/manuals/forms, water supply, animals in warfare, sanitation, stores supply & cataloguing etc But I have come across some extraordinarily kind, knowledgeable & helpful people with whom I have exchanged information. I think I've seen your postings Tim about painting of WW1 vehicles. I think that was a surprise for them. As MT seems to have only limited consideration in many peoples eyes, as if everything that moved around was on a mule or a horse. I think it is the reverse of WW2 thinking! The world seems obsessed a thirst for knowledge about German tanks & mechanisation, yet don't realise that most equipment moved by the German Army was moved not by MT but horses, 1.1 million of them! Getting back to the point the intensity of knowledge & specialisation of GWF maybe blinds them to the role of MT in WW1 & maybe that there is such a tiny proportion of WW1 in MV circles that HMVF is too broad a forum to link up to. I have found most museums good if you are precise & show you know what you are talking about. What gets up my nose is the attitudes in some bookshops. When you ask where the military section is. All I want be told is where the military books are. But often you get asked what period of history are you looking for? I know I don't look the smartest of individuals, but I think if I said I was writing a paper on Napoleonic wars then I would be very readily welcomed. My usual answer is that I have a broad range of interests. As long as it is British I am interested in anything from field latrines to guided weapons. Then I am grudgingly told where the military shelves are, but with an attitude that indicates I can't be a serious collector. Makes me hoping mad because I have a large number of military books on a wide range of topics.

Eau de Nil is BSC 216, Sage Green was BSC 219 but was deleted in 1964. Cockpit Green is not a BSC. I think an example of it is the centre body of this Malkara missile prototype. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v684/fv1620/Malkaracentea.jpg[/img] The least faded bit is within the red ellipse, where it had been covered up by a wing. Given that these were made by the GAF in Australia (Government Aircraft Factories) it seems a likely colour. I found another example of what looks to be same was under my Shorland, when one considers the Shorts Aircraft link it seems likely as well. I'm not sure what you want to paint but if you were trying to match it up, then its close to a Forest Green used by postwar US vehicles. Whereas Eau de Nil would be quite a rich lime green & I think that Land Rover green was a weaker green.

You have to join to get all the downloads. There are few free downloads but not for KB. Why not mail them & see if they have a KB list. What their lists give are the Wheeled Vehicle Contract which will tell how many & what other registrations were in that contract & the date. But that will be the contract date not a DIS. Sometimes there will be odd observations on individual vehicles. Just as we get excited about certain vehicles & registrations, others do about commercial vehicles & much of their interest is in that. I left because I couldn't seem to turn off email notifications of such things as news of the VRNs for new waste compactors bought by Cardiff City Council & the registrations of a new fleet of Tesco lorries :shake: :shake: :shake:

This is the reason why DVLA will not endorse your vehicle as being permanently MOT exempt. On the occasions I have had a vehicle inspected I have asked for exemption. I was told to apply each year because its use may change particularly if I sold the vehicle it might get used to carry goods & cease to be exempt.

These people produced a lot registration lists, military & civil. When I belonged they hadn't covered 'KB' but they might have done by now. http://fleetdata.co.uk/index.html

Have you thought about going to a plumbers merchants? Copper pipe comes in not just 15mm & 22mm but also 28mm & 35mm OD. There are all sorts of ready made bends & bits with off shoots in a lower bore. You could perhaps make something up from combinations of these. Soldering copper is easy & with care you can bend it a bit. But if you really got stuck for that big bend, could you use some ready made radiator hose with a bend already in it? Presumably if it was a hose of a foreign car it would be metric rated & more likely to be compatable with the copper pipework at each end. Then you have even more latitude.

Yes Tony, well done. Richard was nearly there but got pipped at the post! http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v684/fv1620/App0649.jpg[/img]

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Nope

Nope & nope

Yes very good. How would it be deployed? Is there anything/anybody that tows it, carries it, pushes it, lifts it? http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v684/fv1620/App0649f.jpg[/img]

Yes, what goes up, does come down.

Yes it is Yes it does But no sailors were used in its display

Nope none of those, I think you may have spent the evening with your hand up sooty & impaired the judgement ;-) http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v684/fv1620/App0649e.jpg[/img]

Yes, but not paint. Yes, it was the last BAEE held at Farnborough, 8 years ago something like that.

Interesting one Tony, could well be, but isn't.

Yes, correct on both counts. But there is a bit more to it than that.

Wot like this ;-) http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v684/fv1620/App0649d.jpg[/img] Didn't you know this is a combined quiz & eye sight test!

What's this all about? http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v684/fv1620/App0649a.jpg[/img]

There is a greater appreciation of what they are these days. I think there is a Carawagon club in the civvy world. I was lucky to once get some pics of a SWB Carawagon, now that was crampt! Of the military ones most were LHD, strange I can't remember whether mine was, I think it must have been. The first big batch of 36 of them in the GN series were all LHD bar about 6 I think. I remember when I saw it come into the dealers yard. I was told it was 1980 which seemed very cheap. The hormones, for what at the time was a very rare vehicle, were working overtime so much so that I got fixed in my mind I was being offered this for £1980. But alas that was the estimated date. It wasn't that I bought it to avoid embarassment but I had decided it was amust have. I only sold it when they built the M3 past Winchester, I was unable to get it into the new multi-storage carpark. When I came to sell it, it was still very rare, nobody wanted to buy it as they thought it was a home-made effort. In the end the dealer did a minimal part exchange for a RAF 90, he couldn't sell it & it passed into a car auction. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v684/fv1620/App0643.jpg[/img] The internal layout seemed to vary a lot. This one had no sink & washing was done by fitting a plastic washing up bowl in the frame on the rear door. This was mine, which was a lot less ungainly. Wish I kept it now :cry: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v684/fv1620/16GN061-1.jpg[/img]

Yes well done! Given the flimsiness of the Carawagon roof it was prone to damage, not to mention the matter of leaks! This roof has been fabricated in ally & permanently fixed. It is the only one I have seen like this. It ended up being painted cream & a chap used to live in it, often seen in the laybyes along the south cost about 12 years ago. I used to own the first military carawagon that got into civilian hands. My roof was rebuilt but at a lower level & flat. It was done in BAOR with considerable skill. In those days at shows it was ridiculed/criticised as people though it was a normal 109 that I had made into a camper. To dispel this attitude I sent some pictures to a Land Rover magazine. I gave it the correct description: Truck, Caravan, Commanders, 1-Berth, 3/4 Ton, 4x4, Rover but of course they had to print: Truck, Carawagon, Commanders, 5/8 Ton, Land Rover The press! http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v684/fv1620/App0634.jpg[/img]

John do you even do that down hills where there is a sign "STEEP HILL ENGAGE LOW GEAR NOW" ? The reason being that otherwise you rely solely on the brakes for regulation of speed, but by being engaged in a low gear, the gearing has a restraining effect on the speed you descend. Even descending more modest hills I like the reassurance of the engine & gears regulating my speed, rather just hoping the foot pedal will keep it under control.

Bit of a fussy eater then Richard? I was holding back for your opinion. Yes they are rivets. I shall reveal a bit more then of the 'fan dance' http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v684/fv1620/App0634a.jpg[/img]

An enthusiastic answer, but how do I break gently but nope tisn't.