GeePig Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 I came across this here in Poland about a decade ago, but cannot remember where. I am not sure whether it is military or not, or why someone chose this to display. It looks to me like the front pair of wheels for a wagon, but it does not look like the usual farm wagon one finds around. Any ideas? trevor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
draganm Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 looks very military indeed, some kind of horse-drawn towed artillery trailer from WW1, German I think. Just the axles alone are something you would never see on a piece of farm machinery made by the local Blacksmith, never mind all the extra steel banding on the frame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruxy Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 The Swingletree could in fact be a Whippletree , note the leverage mechanish to what seems auto axle brakes (on slack) , probably a gun-carriage limber originally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
draganm Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 the spoke/rim design looks pretty much like any German WW1 artillery carriage, but man those hubs finish or Swedish? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
utt61 Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 A total non-expert view here, and I apologise for any incorrect terminology - I think that it is the fore-carriage of a four-wheeled vehicle, and therefore don't think it is a gun limber or carriage. The top bolster looks as though it swivels about a point directly over the centre of the axle, the bit sticking out the back looks to me as though it is to stop the fore-carriage folding up backwards under whatever is following it. If it was a limber, gun carriage, or any other kind of two-wheeled vehicle surely there would be either a single pole (for two horses) or a pair (for a single horse) running forwards from the front beam, in order to support the vehicle. The quality of construction looks completely compatible with a military vehicle, but I think it is just part of a larger whole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAFMT Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 AIf it was a limber, gun carriage, or any other kind of two-wheeled vehicle surely there would be either a single pole (for two horses) or a pair (for a single horse) running forwards from the front beam, in order to support the vehicle. Not necessarily, dependant on the era and nationality; and even if there was it wasn't always part of the limber but attached by chains. There is nothing in that photo that says to me this is definitely not a limber. I'm not discounting that it could be something else, but... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeePig Posted October 12, 2015 Author Share Posted October 12, 2015 Does the size of the wheels themselves give any clue to its use? trevor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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